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Re:New coronavirus variant: What do we know? by LatteLazy on Monday December 21, 2020 @08:57AM (#25494953)
I have to be careful I don't wander into conspiracy theories but...

I'm fed up because so many people flout the rules with no consequences. I suspect that the lack of consequences is intentional. If everyone flours the rules, the economic hit will be smaller and Bojo can claim he did something and its not his fault no one listened. The government have created a situation where the only logical action for normal people is business as usual, that means large excess deaths, and the government has plausible deniability. Whoops.

/RantAndParanoia

Re:New coronavirus variant: What do we know? by iso1631 on Monday December 21, 2020 @10:17AM (#25495664)
> I'm fed up because so many people flout the rules with no consequences.

Been that way since Barnard's Castle.

The latest decision that says MPs can see their siblings for Christmas Dinner on the 25th, but a Nurse working on the 25th can't see their parent with terminal cancer for dinner on the 26th, will hopefully be ignored.

Re:New coronavirus variant: What do we know? by londons_explore on Monday December 21, 2020 @01:44PM (#25497971)
What's especially funny is the latest Tier 4 Health Protection legislation has a specific exception for groups meeting in the grounds of castles...

I can't believe it hasn't made headlines yet...

Re:New coronavirus variant: What do we know? by switch007 on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @02:15AM (#25503808)
I think it’s existed longer? I remember reading some legislation during the November lockdown thinking that the Gov is trolling us.
Re:New coronavirus variant: What do we know? by SideburnsOfDoom on Monday December 21, 2020 @11:25AM (#25496337)
> If everyone flours the rules, the economic hit will be smaller

Only assuming that there's no economic hit to a rampant pandemic spreading death, hospitalisation and illness. Which is a barking mad assumption. It never was "illness vs economy" you either have both good, or you have neither good. They can't be separated.

Re:New coronavirus variant: What do we know? by konjin on Monday December 21, 2020 @08:34PM (#25501893)
The people dying from the virus are the old, sick and fat. Not a population that adds much to the economy.

Depending on long term health effects if covid runs wild you can see as many benefits to average people at the end of it as you did after the black death.

Re:New coronavirus variant: What do we know? by SideburnsOfDoom on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @02:22AM (#25503836)
> The people dying from the virus are the old, sick and fat.

It's not that simple. It's never that simple: i.e. you have simplified to the point of being flat wrong.

> Depending on long term health effects if covid runs wild you can see as many benefits to average people at the end of it as you did after the black death

I don't know what you mean there, for one thing prevalent Long COVID is really not going to be net benefit, for another you should perhaps rethink your economic argument for genocide / decimation. And your assumption about who is "in groups" / "average people" vs out groups. Your whole line of thinking is lacking in both logic and human decency.

Re:New coronavirus variant: What do we know? by konjin on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @02:49AM (#25503973)
>I don't know what you mean

And yet that didn't stop you from moralizing.

Re:New coronavirus variant: What do we know? by SideburnsOfDoom on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @05:54AM (#25504992)
And you haven't yet started thinking in moral ways, but also your nihilistic desire has stopped you from seeing the logical truth: There are countries that both have the COVID virus under control and also have their economy back on track; and there are countries that have achieved neither. There is no "one or the other". It is "control the virus and benefit economically, or get neither benefit".
Re:New coronavirus variant: What do we know? by konjin on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @08:08AM (#25505853)
Morality is a sound people make when they have nothing to defend their position with.
Re:New coronavirus variant: What do we know? by SideburnsOfDoom on Tuesday December 22, 2020 @11:09AM (#25507678)
I hear your sound loud and clear. It is noise.