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Re:Facebook to move UK users to California terms, avoiding E... by ironmagma on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @06:22PM (#25436791)
It’s more like de-globalization, which could very well be a good thing given the multitudes of problems that have arisen out of globalization.
Re:Facebook to move UK users to California terms, avoiding E... by pilsetnieks on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @07:07PM (#25437228)
Living in a country where a global total war and several occupations of the most evil totalitarian regimes in history is still within living memory, and having been under an isolationist totalitarian power, comments like these make me shudder.

Globalization has some problems. The benefits so far have massively outweighed them, especially if you take the long view. How about we try to fix those faults, instead of retreating and isolating?

Re:Facebook to move UK users to California terms, avoiding E... by ironmagma on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @07:46PM (#25437567)
Centralization of supply chains, economic monoculture, increased spread of disease, increased carbon emissions, massively increased pollution. That’s a lot of risks which are mostly unquantifiable; it’s dubious to claim we know which is worse, especially in the long run. We lived without globalism for many thousands of years, it’s incredibly new and unproven.
Re:Facebook to move UK users to California terms, avoiding E... by wait_a_minute on Wednesday December 16, 2020 @01:28AM (#25439708)
We had a much less global world in the early 1900s. Didn’t stop the Spanish flu and multiple world wars from happening.
Re:Facebook to move UK users to California terms, avoiding E... by Infinitesimus on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @08:40PM (#25437997)
I think the idea here is that keeping most humans alive, relatively healthy and out of poverty is good end goal and globalization helped with that.

We do have unquantifiable long-term risks but I would wager you don't want to live in the days where you did from a small wound because we don't have the technology or scale to provide antibiotics.

Re:Facebook to move UK users to California terms, avoiding E... by ironmagma on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @10:09PM (#25438594)
That is a false dichotomy. There was a sweet spot we had in between the invention of the antibiotic in the 1920s and now when societies were more localized. I find it quite doubtful, for example, that disposing of tons of forever chemicals (PFAS, etc.) in the ocean is at all compatible with keeping humans alive, even most humans. These are the unfortunate incentive structures we get when there is so little accountability.
Re:Facebook to move UK users to California terms, avoiding E... by alisonkisk on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @07:21PM (#25437353)
Are you imagining that globalization will somehow create peace and prosperity between Chinese, Arabs, Jews, USAmericans, billionaires, cocoa growing child slaves, and the rest?
Re:Facebook to move UK users to California terms, avoiding E... by ben_w on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @07:31PM (#25437437)
Looking at the statistics, it’s certainly more plausible than the idea it might be making those things worse.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190111-seven-reasons-wh...

Re:Facebook to move UK users to California terms, avoiding E... by goodpoint on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @09:19PM (#25438240)
...until you consider the looming environmental collapse.
Re:Facebook to move UK users to California terms, avoiding E... by pilsetnieks on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @07:25PM (#25437387)
Yes, it already has, between most of them most of the time.
Re:Facebook to move UK users to California terms, avoiding E... by k_bx on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @06:35PM (#25436909)
Yep. Another scary trend is the recent move of Joe Rogan under exclusively Spotify platform, together with the fact that they've removed the Podcasting part from their app for a number of countries including my own (Ukraine). I really hope there's going to be some common-sense movement that'll put this absurd to an end.
Re:Facebook to move UK users to California terms, avoiding E... by pilsetnieks on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @07:01PM (#25437162)
That's like the complete opposite of what the comment you're replying to is talking about. They're arguing against globalization and you're against different rules for different countries.

If you don't want globalization and think multiculturalism is the devil, it's kinda hypocritical to decry isolationism keeping away the global culture you do want.

Re:Facebook to move UK users to California terms, avoiding E... by k_bx on Wednesday December 16, 2020 @02:30AM (#25440000)
The comment states it's anti-globalization and then states "it could be a good thing", I didn't see that as "arguing against globalization", felt more like adding points to the discussion.

I don't believe in utopia of full 100% globalization (one nation? one army?), but it definitely seems like a good default, and splitting the internet is kind of a worrysome trend.

Re:Facebook to move UK users to California terms, avoiding E... by uniqueid on Wednesday December 16, 2020 @01:11AM (#25439631)
On the plus side: 75 years without a world war, so that's nice.