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Re:EU to unveil landmark law curbing power of tech giants by bzzzt on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @09:12AM (#25430448)
In what universe is Apple (a private company) responsible for the growth of the Web as an app platform? (which was not a design consideration when the web was invented). And who could make a sincere argument of being damaged by Apple not caring enough? Is it Apple's responsibility to make your life easier? In that case I've got a long list of companies to sue...
Re:EU to unveil landmark law curbing power of tech giants by agust on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @09:26AM (#25430575)
The problem is not that Apple doesn't care enough about the Web. If they don't want to add features to Webkit, that's fine.

The problem is that they prevent other browsers to add these features, because they prevent them from using their browser engines. That way, they prevent these browsers to really compete with theirs (Safari). Because if we could run the real Chrome on iOS, with all the APIs it supports, it's obvious everyone would ditch Safari straight away.

And more importantly, that way they prevent Web apps from competing with native apps. Because obviously, who would use a Web app which can't even send push notifications instead of a native app with all the native APIs it has access to?

So the problem is not Apple not caring enough about the Web. The problem is Apple having anti-competitive behaviour regarding Web browsers and application platforms on iOS.

Re:EU to unveil landmark law curbing power of tech giants by dmitriid on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @12:01PM (#25432156)
> Because if we could run the real Chrome on iOS

You'd be running features that both Mozilla and Safari consider harmful and will not implement.

Re:EU to unveil landmark law curbing power of tech giants by agust on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @12:31PM (#25432528)
Well, that would be my problem, as it is when I'm running (the real) Chrome on macOS, Android, Windows or Linux.

And if I'm not happy with that, maybe I'll switch to Firefox, which doesn't support them while not holding the Web back on many other features and with many unfixed bugs for years, like Apple does with Safari.

That's the advantage of competition, if you're not happy with a product, you can use another one instead.

Re:EU to unveil landmark law curbing power of tech giants by tannhaeuser on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @09:45AM (#25430741)
It's true that Apple outright bans apps that themselves could be vectors for platforms such as Flash back in its day. Today's "browsers" with their ever-increasing scope surely fit that criterion. I'm not defending Apple, but the idea that the web is an "open" platform (when it's overwhelmingly just Chrome) should not be used as an argument here, when Google employs just other anti-competitive tactics.
Re:EU to unveil landmark law curbing power of tech giants by radicalbyte on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @10:54AM (#25431367)
It's not just not caring about the web - they have a very strong financial incentive to kill the web as a viable platform for applications, games etc.
Re:EU to unveil landmark law curbing power of tech giants by Daishiman on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @09:22AM (#25430537)
Apple has deliberately not fixed rendering inconsistencies in Safari when every other browser works more or less ina standardized manner.

Most frontend devs that I know making PWAs complain endlessly about the number of exceptions and workarounds for Safari, and indeed it does slow down development and ends up being a justification for contemplating dedicated mobile apps.

Re:EU to unveil landmark law curbing power of tech giants by whimsicalism on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @09:32AM (#25430631)
I'm going to assume you are non-technical, because you are utterly missing the point of the GP.

Apple doesn't have to do anything, they just have to stop blocking others from doing anything.