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Re:Eric Engstrom, co-creator of DirectX, has died by recursive on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @12:20AM (#25427289)
> "Um, better sound quality?"

> Eric just couldn't believe those responses.

If only a phone could be invented that had sound quality as good as we had in the 90s. I can barely understand people anymore. I'm not losing my hearing in my old age. (much) In person is fine. Other recordings are fine. Even video conferences are fine. But phone calls sound unaccountably terrible.

Re:Eric Engstrom, co-creator of DirectX, has died by vizzier on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @01:16AM (#25427542)
It has been starkly noticeable since my company has moved from doing phone-in conference calls to using Teams just how compressed normal phone line conversations are. Combined with a couple of our members having piss poor mobile coverage where they were (but much faster internet) our meetings became a lot higher quality.

On the phone-line side I wonder if that is a degradation due to digital switchovers & compression, a lack of allocated resources, or just pure rose tinted glasses.

Re:Eric Engstrom, co-creator of DirectX, has died by Exmoor on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @01:44AM (#25427693)
VoLTE [0] really improves this, but with compatibility and network limitations make it all too rare. It's like night and day when it works though.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_over_LTE

Re:Eric Engstrom, co-creator of DirectX, has died by asveikau on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @01:48AM (#25427710)
I probably make calls with apps more than POTS calls these days. The sample rate and codec on a typical social app is noticably better than POTS calls.
Re:Eric Engstrom, co-creator of DirectX, has died by Ekaros on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @03:43AM (#25428296)
POTS is not POTS any more. Anything other than possible last mile is now digital, with lowest possible if not lower bitrate and old codecs. And that extends to mobile.
Re:Eric Engstrom, co-creator of DirectX, has died by asveikau on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @03:49AM (#25428335)
Right. So substitute "AMR-NB" for "POTS".
Re:Eric Engstrom, co-creator of DirectX, has died by ksec on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @02:44PM (#25434163)
It really should be AMR-WB or even AMR-WB+ by now, and EVS if you are on VoLTE.

EVS are very good at 16-32Kbps bitrate, possibly better than even Opus. But generally speaking Social Apps uses higher bitrate you get better quality. Although latency tends to suffer a bit.

Re:Eric Engstrom, co-creator of DirectX, has died by agumonkey on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @09:36AM (#25430671)
Wait, you're using a smartphone to phone ? how peculiar.
Re:Eric Engstrom, co-creator of DirectX, has died by tomatocracy on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @07:04AM (#25429487)
The highest bitrate EVS codecs finally get there I think. Though you'll need sufficient signal strength and networks which support them at both ends of the call.
Re:Eric Engstrom, co-creator of DirectX, has died by lionkor on Wednesday December 16, 2020 @06:57AM (#25441554)
its likely due to the phone companies squeezing the last bit of space out of their frequency bands, making it sound worse and worse.
Re:Eric Engstrom, co-creator of DirectX, has died by mehrdadn on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @01:39AM (#25427659)
Might be a VoIP thing?
Re:Eric Engstrom, co-creator of DirectX, has died by TonyTrapp on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @04:50AM (#25428639)
At least in Germany, since we got VoIP the voice quality is absolutely crystal-clear if all devices on the line are digital. It will still sound muffled if you connect e.g. an analog phone to your VoIP router, but a DECT phone over VoIP will sound so bright and clear that it's almost frightening.