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Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by CoolGuySteve on Monday December 14, 2020 @11:51AM (#25419716)
With all this talk about various corporations policing copyright, censoring political content, and whatnot, I think it's only a matter of time until someone makes an anonymous blockchain content aggregator that's impossible to censor.

Then when it becomes the modern equivalent of Usenet/IRC/Napster/PirateBay, people will just shrug and say "don't blame the protocol".

The demand exists and the technology exists, but nobody has put them together yet.

Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by astrange on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:05PM (#25419907)
Wouldn’t your blockchain be several PB in size right away, immediately censoring itself because nobody could store it?
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by nickelcitymario on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:51PM (#25420658)
What if it was only a directory of torrents? Not hosting the content itself, but indexing it.

(I've never developed anything with blockchain or torrents, so my apologies if there's a technical reason why this sucks.)

If I understand Pirate Bay and other torrent sites correctly, they don't host any content. They just index what's available P2P.

I'm not sure how large that index would become, but I could imagine chunking the index itself out so that it doesn't take much room on any one user's machine.

The chunking of the index could theoretically be done in such a way that no individual chunk would have any useable information, so no individual user could be accused of linking to illegal content. (I think that's conceivable? Again, not sure.)

(Please note: This is pure hypotheticals. I have zero interest in seeing such a system come about.)

Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by laumars on Monday December 14, 2020 @04:30PM (#25423617)
Indexing has always been the easy part. It’s the hosting that’s the real problem.

With hosting, you can either have it centralised so users are anonymised from each other (but it’s easier to take down centralised repositories) or decentralised but where users can see each other (but then it’s easier for copyright holders to go after individuals). You can’t really have it both decentralised and anonymous.

Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by nickelcitymario on Monday December 14, 2020 @04:58PM (#25423954)
Good point
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by YokoZar on Monday December 14, 2020 @03:15PM (#25422635)
You're about 50% of the way to reinventing 2000s era peer to peer filesharing programs here.
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by nickelcitymario on Monday December 14, 2020 @04:54PM (#25423900)
...you're not wrong.
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by tsimionescu on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:09PM (#25419970)
There's no such thing as 'impossible to censor'. It may eb 'hard to censor', perhaps even 'impractical to censor', but a powerful enough government will be able to censor anything it wants. Do your think that, if people started somehow publishing 'bad' stories about the CCP in the bit coin block chain, the CCP wouldn't act to remove that content or censor any acces to the block chain itself?
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by tomjen3 on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:42PM (#25420517)
CPP might be able to ban access to the block chain, or some part of it, but they wouldn't be able to replace it with their own version that was accepted outside China.
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by pc86 on Monday December 14, 2020 @01:12PM (#25420987)
Would they need to? If they're controlling what their populace can and cannot see that's at least 51% of their goal, isn't it?
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by jokethrowaway on Monday December 14, 2020 @07:00PM (#25425150)
A blockchain doesn't make it impossible to censor.

To be honest, I wonder why western governments don't ban cryptocurrencies.

They make tax collection harder and help criminals collect money. Plus that would be a blow for countries that are investing tons of money in it eg China, which is destroying the rest of the world, economy-wise.

There is the possibility that western governments are already under Chinese influence, I guess, but I wasn't definitely expecting BTC to survive so long. Especially because governments are not even benefiting from cryptos.

Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by wmf on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:37PM (#25420429)
Freenet has existed for a long time but it hasn't really taken off.
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by ebiester on Monday December 14, 2020 @11:58AM (#25419827)
Why bother with blockchain? This is a torrent use case because nobody wants to share their record of porn ownership.
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by CoolGuySteve on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:03PM (#25419894)
Torrent aggregator sites/discords have small groups of people behind them to arrest or sue. A blockchain would have a large impractical group of people to arrest or sue, it would be like when the RIAA tried to sue Kazaa users.
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by oivey on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:35PM (#25420407)
It’s unclear how this is true. You would still need tools to search the blockchain for the content you’re looking for. Someone would also need to curate and coordinate the format for embedding this information. Anyone involved with either of those steps could be targeted. Those are just off the top of my head. There are likely more holes than that.
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by dasudasu on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:53PM (#25420674)
It’s not a tech issue. You can target anyone that’s part of a disaggregated network and broadcasts it. That’s true for torrents, TOR nodes, or blockchains.
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by CoolGuySteve on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:58PM (#25420767)
That's exactly my point, at some point the legal system doesn't scale as well as the technology.
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by cool_dude85 on Monday December 14, 2020 @02:17PM (#25421875)
What happens when someone uploads their illegal porn to the blockchain aggregator and it can't be taken down? It seems like there's a strong need to censor things like video and photo sharing.