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Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by standardUser on Monday December 14, 2020 @11:33AM (#25419463)
"You do not go after women and start a family."

One of the many benefits I have received from porn and sex positivity in general. Imagine thinking you're supposed to "go after" a woman because of some requirement to start a family? Absolutely dystopian.

Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by fullshark on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:10PM (#25419977)
The OP didn't phrase this elegantly for sure, but the general idea that a life spent alone, consuming pornography all day is unfulfilling should not be controversial, and porn like any addiction / vice can become a trap.
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by powersnail on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:26PM (#25420260)
> the general idea that a life spent alone, consuming pornography all day is unfulfilling should not be controversial

1). I don't see why that's not controversial. It doesn't seem self-evident. If a person can fulfill the need by watching porn, then by definition, it is fulfilled. If a person finds it unfulfilling, well, such a person will be motivated to branch out and start doing something else.

2). OP claimed that regardless of whether you watch it all day for a few times a week, porn hinders you down from pursuing females. I'd argue that the latter doesn't.

3). Not forming a family doesn't mean a life spent alone. The only people I know who's determined to not ever get married, has a very active sex life and parties all the time. The idea that one can't be happy without a family is fairly outdated.

4). Addiction is a real thing, but one has to recognize that there is a wide gap between pathologically addicted to porn, and just enjoying watching porn.

Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by serial_dev on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:40PM (#25420470)
> If a person can fulfill the need by watching porn, then by definition, it is fulfilled. If a person finds it unfulfilling, well, such a person will be motivated to branch out and start doing something else.

Depends on what we are "fulfilling". Just think about an extremely overweight person who cannot stop overeating. Yes, they are fulfilled in terms of food, but (sometimes) they are self-loathing and consider the fact that they cannot stop eating a personal failure, so in that sense they are the farthest from "fulfilled".

Same is true for porn, you might be fulfilled in a sense that you get to orgasm in 10 minutes, but there are other facets of life where regular porn consumption or masturbation might have a negative effect.

Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by powersnail on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:53PM (#25420691)
Sure, nobody would expect porn to fill desires other than sexual. But, one can do other things to fulfill other desires.

> there are other facets of life where regular porn consumption or masturbation might have a negative effect

If there is a pathological addiction, yes, it will have a negative effect on one's life, just like most other addictions. (Addiction to sex, for instance)

But, otherwise, I can't really think of masturbation interfering with life that much. People frequently waste away 10 minutes in all kinds of ways.

Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by Blikkentrekker on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:43PM (#25420528)
Perhaps we could let a man decide for himself what he might wish to do with his life.

For me, it's neither pornography nor “going after women”, a practice that thankfully isn't common in my culture, I find having debates on the internet and consuming quality fiction to be more rewarding than either.

Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by CapricornNoble on Monday December 14, 2020 @11:41AM (#25419570)
You wouldn't even be here if your dad didn't go after your mom. What's dystopian about the drive to perpetuate the species? That's the most basic function of any lifeform.
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by standardUser on Monday December 14, 2020 @11:55AM (#25419778)
I am extremely driven, but due to various methods of birth control I am completely unsuccessful.

Many species, including higher mammals, frequently engage in infanticide as part of their quest to perpetuate their genes, so maybe let's all try to do a bit better than the default of the natural world.

Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by alacombe on Monday December 14, 2020 @01:45PM (#25421409)
> Many species, including higher mammals, frequently engage in infanticide as part of their quest to perpetuate their genes, so maybe let's all try to do a bit better than the default of the natural world

Infanticide is conducted routinely in human societies in the form of abortion. Even though, abortion IS the right choice.

Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by wruza on Monday December 14, 2020 @09:04PM (#25426177)
It is a completely different infanticide, even if you give it this name.
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by alacombe on Monday December 14, 2020 @10:03PM (#25426487)
The result is the same.
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by wruza on Monday December 14, 2020 @10:31PM (#25426646)
The result is not the same either. The described infanticide serves a goal of undoing other gene’s reproduction. Abortion is a smarter form of not spending resources on a weak/dead-end offspring (or just throwing it out of nest), if you want these analogies.
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by alacombe on Monday December 14, 2020 @10:40PM (#25426698)
Would you condone the post-birth infanticide of a weak/dead-end offspring as a smarter form of not spending resource someone probably does not have ?
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by wruza on Tuesday December 15, 2020 @05:15AM (#25428810)
I’m not talking morals here and not arguing for or against abortion. Our morals have nothing to do with competition infanticide in mammals vs abortion diff.
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by wruza on Monday December 14, 2020 @09:17PM (#25426247)
Is it wise to stretch other species’ defaults to this issue? It is our behavior that is discussed, not that of some “higher mammals”. If that was natural to us, it would be a known widespread phenomenon in “feral” areas. Nothing adds more tension to the society than depriving most fundamental drives. Thank god these do not include opposing each other by forming large groups or not giving respect or food to someone because they don’t look better than us.
Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by commandlinefan on Monday December 14, 2020 @11:52AM (#25419728)
> the drive to perpetuate the species

Maybe that's a good thing - we're facing an overpopulation crisis in the relatively near future.

Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by astrange on Monday December 14, 2020 @12:08PM (#25419956)
We certainly are not. The thing about Malthus is that he was wrong.

Birth rates are below or barely above replacement level in most of the world anyway, the only place with high birth rates is Africa and they’re not listening to you.

Re:Pornhub just purged all unverified content from the platform by prionassembly on Monday December 14, 2020 @02:13PM (#25421813)
I'm curious as how this misconception subsists in 2020. Where did you come up with this idea?