Re:Sharrows, the bicycle infrastructure that doesn’t work an...
by matthewmacleod on Sunday December 13, 2020 @04:24PM
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That will mostly create an incentive to not cycle, which is the last thing we need.
Re:Sharrows, the bicycle infrastructure that doesn’t work an...
by Spooky23 on Sunday December 13, 2020 @05:02PM
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I doubt it.
Cycling is well established, but the rules around road use are insane. That won’t get fixed unless someone is getting a big bill.
Re:Sharrows, the bicycle infrastructure that doesn’t work an...
by adamcstephens on Sunday December 13, 2020 @05:21PM
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I’m not sure where you live, but here in Ohio cycling is definitely not “well established”. When you compare infrastructure it’s not even a competition. Don’t want to deal with bicyclists breaking laws? Get them off the streets onto their own dedicated infrastructure. Then bicycling actually would become well established.
“Big bills” do nothing to stop drivers from breaking the laws, but go on thinking that it will change cyclists.
Re:Sharrows, the bicycle infrastructure that doesn’t work an...
by analog31 on Sunday December 13, 2020 @10:18PM
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Yes! Yes!
Since most cyclists in the US also have car insurance, our rates could be based on computing the risk of each mode of transportation. Cyclists would pay less for insurance. Make my day.
Re:Sharrows, the bicycle infrastructure that doesn’t work an...
by karaterobot on Sunday December 13, 2020 @09:37PM
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Where I live, bikes are considered vehicles, like cars or trucks. It makes complete sense to me that you'd need to be licensed to operate a vehicle -- any vehicle -- on public roads. In this thread about how dangerous it is to ride a bike in cities, I'd love to hear an explanation for why we think it's a good idea for anybody to hop on a bike and ride in traffic with no training, no oversight, no insurance, and no registration.
Re:Sharrows, the bicycle infrastructure that doesn’t work an...
by Fricken on Sunday December 13, 2020 @09:58PM
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Cyclists aren't exposed to the same liabilities. They don't typically cause death or injury to others when they fuck up, nor do they cause thousands of dollars in property damage.
In the limited experience that I have as a frequent pedestrian visitor with dedicated cycling lanes in NYC, they feel dangerous to pedestrians. Many cyclists don’t want to stop or yield to pedestrians, and left turn markings on avenues are still evolving and confuse a lot of drivers.