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Re:The YouTube ban is un-American, wrong, and will backfire
by inglor_cz on Saturday December 12, 2020 @04:38AM
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Is being alienated the same as being dead, e.g. a final, irreversible state?
I would say no. There is always a lot of fence sitters. Say "fuck you" to their faces and you lose any chance of winning them back.
Re:The YouTube ban is un-American, wrong, and will backfire
by tomcam on Saturday December 12, 2020 @02:26AM
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> They're fully prepared to destroy every American institution, simply because Trump them that they should.
Reading minds is not your strong point.
Re:The YouTube ban is un-American, wrong, and will backfire
by yew on Saturday December 12, 2020 @02:31AM
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Speaking as an American who didn't vote for Trump, either time, you've certainly alienated me. You'd (collectively) best hope you're making more friends than enemies.
Hope's all any of us have at this point.
Re:The YouTube ban is un-American, wrong, and will backfire
by southeastern on Saturday December 12, 2020 @03:43AM
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Eh when your consider things like this;
https://www.fox7austin.com/news/texas-gop-chair-suggests-law...
>Texas GOP chair says 'law-abiding states' should 'form a union' after SCOTUS rejects election suit
I feel there may be a real point to that. Is he being a bit emotional with his post? Sure. Should that be enough to write off a possible threat to democracy? No. I mean if that alienates you, I expect what the TX GOP chair did will REALLY make you passionate
Re:The YouTube ban is un-American, wrong, and will backfire
by rayiner on Saturday December 12, 2020 @02:40AM
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This. Trump will be gone. The trashing of our liberal values in the name of “moral clarity in the age of Trump” will remain.
Re:The YouTube ban is un-American, wrong, and will backfire
by dasil003 on Saturday December 12, 2020 @03:31AM
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Trump support is more about disillusionment and distrust of career politicians and frustration at the steady decline of blue-collar prosperity than it is about actually believing his mouth words.
And in the process you’ll create a system that will eventually alienate enough people in the middle to undermine you. Banning discussion of this—instead of letting the courts do their work—will alienate the half of the country that voted for Trump. It’ll alienate traditional liberals for whom free speech (not in the narrow legal sense but the larger social sense) is a core value. And eventually the system you’ve created will do something to overreach. The desire to censor the other side won’t end here. And at that point, the majority of people will find themselves on the other side and you’ll have a problem.
Traditional liberal values were a good thing and we should hesitate to abandon them. Liberals defended nazis marching through American cities in the name of free speech. If we can handle that we can have handle baseless claims of election fraud that are being swiftly dealt with by the courts.