One side believes the last 4 years has seen multiple attempts to remove their elected president. Not to mention the Justice kavanaugh confirmation madness.

Correction: Elected criminal lying president.

Lol. I love when someone like you comments this without any irony. You truly believe this nonsense like it’s gospel.

What Trump has going for him, is picking up issues that need to be addressed, that have gone been neglected in a fast-evolving world, leading to unfairness. However, how these issues are treated and how people are treated, is important in a democracy.

https://theconversation.com/why-hard-core-trump-supporters-i...

If he's such a great leader and not just an opportunist populist, why do he need to instill a fear-culture where everybody who doesn't lick his boots get fired. People appointed by the same leader dare not speak up their own opinions. This isn't democracy. What type of leader do this? Hint: Communist leaders like Stalin, and fascist leaders like Mussolini.

If you're unable to spot a liar yourself, it is not too hard to form your own opinion on this:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/23/opinion/trump...

https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-...

https://www.dailywire.com/news/trumps-101-lies-hank-berrien

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=trump+lies+list

Fortunately, a majority of the population see right through the lack of leadership and lies for what they truly are. The means are as important as the ends, and the ends are often obscured and full of misdirection, more like PR campaigns than anything of real and lasting value.

As someone who voted against Trump twice, I am horrified by his attempts to cling to office. At the same time, I am also reminded of the people in my social circle as well as in the Lefty media who in late 2016 talked about how Electoral College members had no legal obligation to cast a vote for Trump. (Except that many states have laws that say they do.)

What seems to be true of "both sides" is that both see their enemies as people who are set on their destruction and thereby justify "by whatever means necessary" thinking.

I too am one of those people thought a pinko socialist by some and a revanchist caveman by others.

Pundits questioning the electoral process is not the same as politicians actively trying to overturn election results.

True, and filing lawsuits is not the same as violent, armed insurrection.

True. And people filing lawsuits is not the same as armed insurrection.

As best I recall, the one faithless elector in 2016 was the John Kasich, a very conservative Republican, who threw away his vote on John McCain.

As a person who voted for Trump twice, I’m horrified by the blasé way the left ignores serious issues with the vote. If you were a Facebook moderator, I truly believe that you would censor me because of your own political beliefs, and allow hate speech by those you agree with. I’m not alarmed by his desire to hang on to power, I champion it.

Not sure how to take an incapable president seriously, other than he's very good at manipulating. Letting hundreds of thousands die while providing special treatment for himself and his cronies. However, there must be grave concerns that should be addressed politically, that shouldn't be ignored by either party. It seems both parties are hostage by the political system and dark background billionaires. Unfortunately, either is unable to break the stalemate into more constructive middle-grounds. This is the most serious concern, that this is exactly the intention.

Maybe go find someone who subscribes to the NYT or watches MSNBC to hurl your unfounded accusations at. Because you’re not replying to someone who’s trying to grind you into dust.

I think the left are blasé just now because:

a) Any irregularities are too small to effect the outcome

b) Most serious biases in the process are pro republican

Just wondering, do you think there were serious issues with the vote in 2016?

Quite a lot of republicans believe in democracy still. The POTUS has had to abandon Fox and advocate crankier outlets for his cause.