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Re:MasterCard to stop processing payments on Pornhub, cites ... by McDyver on Thursday December 10, 2020 @04:30PM (#25378994)
I believe you're contradicting yourself.

In your example, if the underage drinkers pay using MasterCard, then it's MCs job to check, as they're doing to pornhub.

MasterCard should stay out of it, as they do in other situations.

Re:MasterCard to stop processing payments on Pornhub, cites ... by Barrin92 on Thursday December 10, 2020 @04:34PM (#25379033)
>, if the underage drinkers pay using MasterCard, then it's MCs job to check

no, a bartender is always obligated to verify the age of people who enter their establishment if in doubt, regardless of how they pay. You won't get off the hook selling booze to minors because they pay digitally.

And that is actually very reasonable for the exact reason I pointed out, if it was MC's responsibility they would have an immediate excuse to snoop into my purchasing history for every minor transaction. (which they already have to a far too large degree).

Re:MasterCard to stop processing payments on Pornhub, cites ... by UnFleshedOne on Thursday December 10, 2020 @05:01PM (#25379343)
Aren't you contradicting yourself? In this case pornhub is the bartender, and MC is MC. Here we have a few underage drinkers tricking or convincing a bartender to pour a drink, and MC is stopping payment processing for the bar and you agree that's the right thing?
Re:MasterCard to stop processing payments on Pornhub, cites ... by Spooky23 on Thursday December 10, 2020 @07:15PM (#25380659)
Its a bad analogy.

If an online liquor store was systematically ignoring ABC laws and shipping booze to underage customers across state lines, MC would probably act in a similar way.

Re:MasterCard to stop processing payments on Pornhub, cites ... by Barrin92 on Thursday December 10, 2020 @05:07PM (#25379433)
No, I'm not contradicting myself, I'm saying the level of authority should be appropriate to the issue at hand. Child abuse apparently widespread enough to go beyond Pornhub's already existing moderation implies some responsibility for the payment processors, and also at the end of the day responsibility of the law enforcement. What I'm saying is there is no division of labour in the sense of outsourcing everything to law enforcement, or everything to Pornhub.
Re:MasterCard to stop processing payments on Pornhub, cites ... by McDyver on Thursday December 10, 2020 @04:51PM (#25379223)
Exactly.

MasterCard has nothing to do with verifying the legality of the transaction - pornhub, or whoever, should do their due diligence to validate everything is legal.

Re:MasterCard to stop processing payments on Pornhub, cites ... by notyourday on Friday December 11, 2020 @03:53PM (#25390837)
Facebook

Reddit

Instagram

Vimeo

Snapchat

CashApp

Venmo

Every single one of these companies has trafficking minors problem. All of them dwarf pornhub's.