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Re:U.S. Judge Halts TikTok Ban by tshaddox on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @01:42PM (#25349582)
> If Facebook, Google, Twitter, et al are not allowed to operate in China, I see no reason why we should allow chinese social media companies to operate here.

I think the Great Firewall is bad in China and would also be bad in the US. If you want to make this about actual business presence, financial transactions, etc. that would fall under trade, then sure. But how are you suggesting to "ban" a Chinese website or app, other than erecting our own Great Firewall? And would you suggest using that firewall to ban all requests from China? Or just "social media" requests?

Re:U.S. Judge Halts TikTok Ban by AndrewUnmuted on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @02:05PM (#25349888)
Thank you for bringing the Great Firewall into the discussion, because it is pretty important that we have that context. I think this is actually a lot more relevant to the conversation than any notion of seeking to negate a competitive advantage.

Recently, it occurred to me that the Great Firewall could be more of a tool for foreign policy, not domestic policy. If China for instance wanted to attack US's critical infrastructure, they could do so without damaging their own. Russia has recently employed such a system for their country's internet services, if I recall correctly.

It may very well be that this is what is motivating the TikTok madness here in the US. Left to their own devices, perhaps the fear is that China will weaponize TikTok against its US users, with no way to "great firewall" ourselves from those outcomes. Since we cannot use this strategy without angering the rest of the world on the "open internet" we have to resort to different measures.

Re:U.S. Judge Halts TikTok Ban by boringg on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @02:12PM (#25349963)
There was an argument that TikTok was already weaponized for the election. The suppression of voices that are against the CCP or in the case of the US TikTok could upplay or downplay voices that it wanted heard. I.e. meddling in foreign elections.
Re:U.S. Judge Halts TikTok Ban by jonfromsf on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @02:32PM (#25350182)
In what way? I went through a TikTok phase a few months ago. The most salient thing I noticed was the total absence of political content, relative to Facebook/Twitter.
Re:U.S. Judge Halts TikTok Ban by novok on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @02:02PM (#25349850)
A trade ban would be enough to dissuade them from operating in the USA. It would basically be equivalent to a narrow trade sanction w/ a tariff or tax for any leaks.