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Re:First person receives Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in UK by nojito on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @06:11AM (#25343891)
Because stopping the elderly from overwhelming the health infrastructure needs to be step 1.

ICU beds are extremely expensive.

Re:First person receives Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in UK by raxxorrax on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @06:34AM (#25344016)
The price is one thing, but after ICU you need to train to breath again, it takes a very long rehabilitation time.

It is a very invasive method of keeping someone alive and is only used in emergencies. Rehabilitation also binds resources.

Re:First person receives Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in UK by ChrisRR on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @09:57AM (#25345967)
Ventilator weaning is a long process
Re:First person receives Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in UK by oxfordmale on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @06:12AM (#25343897)
At this age, you don't get admitted to an ICU bed
Re:First person receives Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in UK by nobrains on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @06:32AM (#25343992)
No, you do, because no matter the age, the family members still want to have a chance of survival of their loved one. My distant relative (70 year old) was in ICU for 30 days, and on ventilator for 14 days. Yes, that is a very long time for ventilator usage, and every day more on a ventilator increases the death rate probability percentage.
Re:First person receives Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in UK by oxfordmale on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @06:33AM (#25344005)
At the age of 90, your lungs are too fragile to be put on a ventilator. It was one of the reasons academics overestimated the number of ventilators required for COVID.
Re:First person receives Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in UK by exdsq on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @06:38AM (#25344047)
This isn't a hard-set rule, just an extra factor in triage

Edit: Do you work at the JR by any chance? Asking as another Oxford Male based nearby!

https://academic.oup.com/biomedgerontology/article/60/1/129/...

Re:First person receives Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in UK by KaiserPro on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @07:42AM (#25344401)
its really not that simple, it turned out that the stats we were working from were wrong (well done china...) but also ventilators are not great for covid patients. Its much better to slap them with oxygen.
Re:First person receives Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in UK by lagadu on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @06:37AM (#25344035)
Too fragile for a ventilator but not too fragile for ecmo.
Re:First person receives Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in UK by Narretz on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @06:52AM (#25344120)
Of course they do, as long as there's a bed available. Especially with Covid. No hospital wants to be the one that denied a patient an available ICU bed.
Re:First person receives Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in UK by djhn on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @07:09AM (#25344199)
Well at the NHS they'd consider your approach American Overtreatment.
Re:First person receives Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine in UK by KaiserPro on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @07:44AM (#25344414)
[citation needed]

Do you work in a hospital? do you know any ICU people? I think you are confusing palliative care with ICU

American overtreatment is busting out MRIs for a standard sprain, routine CAT scans, dishing out opiates for anything more than 2weeks