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Re:Maybe we shouldn't want a fully decentralized web by convolvatron on Saturday December 05, 2020 @12:00PM (#25316064)
a system that simultaneously depends on the opinions of the populace (consumer choice, voting) to make good decisions, and can't trust those same people to make a well informed choice is kind of at odds with itself
Re:Maybe we shouldn't want a fully decentralized web by skybrian on Saturday December 05, 2020 @02:16PM (#25317399)
This looks like a paradox but it's easily resolved when you realize that trust isn't binary.

The "wisdom of crowds" depends on the question asked, the algorithm used, and the countermeasures that keep people from gaming it.

A simple example: if you want to have good restaurant reviews, it's a good idea to exclude people who never ate at the restaurant in question. That alone isn't necessarily going to get good results, but it will help.

Just letting strangers do whatever they want in group activities online typically has bad results. This has been tried many times. If you want to get good results you need some kind of structure.

Who imposes this structure? The people building the system.

Re:Maybe we shouldn't want a fully decentralized web by specialist on Saturday December 05, 2020 @01:49PM (#25317129)
Any discussion of Freedom Speechesβ„’ must also account for inauthentic speech.

Trolls, bots, socket puppets, propaganda, gaming the algorithmic recommenders, flooding the zone with bullshit, etc.

Re:Maybe we shouldn't want a fully decentralized web by vorpalhex on Saturday December 05, 2020 @01:56PM (#25317214)
And who is fit to determine the trolls and propaganda?
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Re:Maybe we shouldn't want a fully decentralized web by inetknght on Saturday December 05, 2020 @04:14PM (#25318433)
Uhh... wait a minute... is this sarcasm?

I hope it's sarcasm.

Re:Maybe we shouldn't want a fully decentralized web by geoah on Saturday December 05, 2020 @06:02PM (#25319280)
hehe, seems like it, link is a link to a youtube rick-roll video
Re:Maybe we shouldn't want a fully decentralized web by specialist on Saturday December 05, 2020 @02:01PM (#25317261)
Self determination. Sign your works. Anything unsigned is gossip, or worse.
Re:Maybe we shouldn't want a fully decentralized web by convolvatron on Saturday December 05, 2020 @02:12PM (#25317360)
it doesn't seem clear from the recent political situation in the US that owning up to your lies does anything but give them more strength.
Re:Maybe we shouldn't want a fully decentralized web by specialist on Saturday December 05, 2020 @02:18PM (#25317425)
Yup.

My goal is to break feedback loops. Authenticated speech empowers us (the receiver). Like spam filters for news (outrage).

I don't care if other people are gas huffing QAnon, just so long as I don't have to ever hear about it.