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Re:Thirty Years of ‘Against Measurement’ by a1369209993 on Friday December 04, 2020 @06:02PM (#25309491)
I'm not sure if you actually don't understand quantum mechanics, or if you do but are expressing your point extremely poorly, but "You and Bob, by virtue of having interacted with the same measurement apparatus, have become mutually entangled, and that is what a classically correlated system is." is the objectively real physical reality.

The fact that measurements are repeatable is, in fact, because they are giving us information about that specific kind of objectively real physical reality - the fact that that reality is, at base, better described by quantum wavefunctions rather than trying to shoehorn it into a model resembling tiny billiard balls bouncing around only seems like a problem if you allow your brain's myriad evolution-induced biases and deficiencies to overwhelm your capacity for abstract reasoning. (Like, admittedly, Einstein seems to have.)

Re:Thirty Years of ‘Against Measurement’ by dang on Friday December 04, 2020 @06:25PM (#25309677)
Please make your substantive points without personal swipes.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Thirty Years of ‘Against Measurement’ by lisper on Friday December 04, 2020 @06:52PM (#25309932)
FWIW, I didn't take offense at this. The truth is it's probably a little of both. But in my defense, I will just say that if I failed to explain it well, I would not be the first.
Re:Thirty Years of ‘Against Measurement’ by a1369209993 on Friday December 04, 2020 @07:17PM (#25310179)
> if I failed to explain it well, I would not be the first.

This, at least, is definitely true. If anything, the fact that you don't posit magically violating pretty much every conservation law in the history of physics (Copenhagen interpretation/collapse postulate) or magically duplicating the entire universe (Many worlds interpretation), arguably puts you ahead of most actual quantum physicists (albeit, one hopes, more on the explanation front than the understanding one), although my estimation of that relative to the latter might just be a artifact having a easier time imputing metaphorical status to "illusion" than to "world". (Copenhagen gets no such excuse, though, so you're still ahead of a plurality of actual quantum physicists.)