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Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by ryanmerket on Friday December 04, 2020 @02:43PM (#25306783)
At Goodfair (disclosure: I run Product & Eng), we are based out of the used clothing capital of America -- Port of Houston, TX. It's our mission to rescue these clothes from being sold to international distributors / before they leave our shores, and sell them in thrift/vintage bundles.

Our model is a bit unique. We purchase the same 100lb and 500lb bales the international distributors do. We have a team that processes the bales, categorizes the clothes, and then merch/list them in a marketable and fun way on the site.

Textile waste is the 2nd largest polluter behind oil & gas. If we can help create a culture of buying second-hand first, we think there's a massive opportunity to put a dent in climate change.

We just got some of our first press yesterday. :) https://www.houstonchronicle.com/techburger/amp/Houston-dres...

tl;dr WE WILL TAKE ALL YOUR CLOTHES. :)

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by hamolton on Friday December 04, 2020 @08:42PM (#25310808)
Do you have plans to address the criticisms you've had on Youtube and Reddit comments? It sounds like a lot of people have been unhappy with quality of service given the prices (esp. if you get low quantities), citing the dirtiness/wrinkles of clothes received (you don't wash them on purpose I guess), how there seems to be a lot of clothes that are beat up or faded compared to what you'd get at a thrift store, how you don't have controls over the brightness and vibrancy colors you get, and there seems to be little adherence to the requests customers put in text box.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by Animats on Friday December 04, 2020 @09:38PM (#25311162)
I'm amazed the business model works. The shipping and handling may cost more than the contents.
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Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by imustbeevil on Saturday December 05, 2020 @06:56AM (#25313896)
It's hard to find the right words for this, but I would sincerely reevaluate your perspective.

A surprising number of people thrift / buy used clothes. Between thrift stores and consignment shops, more people shop there than Department stores (30% vs 21%).

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/stories/thrift-store-day.htm...

It's currently popular among younger people as a push against "fast fashion". People want clothes that are unique and affordable, and their only options are thrift stores or color blocks from Uniqlo.

This is the "kind of person" who buys used clothes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nihjDIczdCA

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by AtlasBarfed on Saturday December 05, 2020 @10:18PM (#25320716)
Fast fashion is likely undermining used clothes, since they degrade quickly to not being wearable, but still have the same landfill degradation problems as other textiles.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by nix23 on Saturday December 05, 2020 @07:27AM (#25314046)
You sound like a terrible character, and you should be ashamed about yourself.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by selimthegrim on Sunday December 06, 2020 @01:43PM (#25325530)
He (I am confidently making this assumption, feel free to to correct if wrong) also clearly has never had kids or hand me downs
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by mint2 on Saturday December 05, 2020 @11:07AM (#25315527)
You do know there’s such a thing as a washing machine?

It takes dirty clothes and removed the dirt and nothing dangerous will survive the detergent and hot water.

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by notebook00 on Saturday December 05, 2020 @09:22PM (#25320451)
Use the dryer to kill bedbugs, lice, ticks, etc. In this case bedbugs are probably of greatest concern.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by chance_state on Friday December 04, 2020 @10:17PM (#25311383)
> Do you have plans to address the criticisms you've had on Youtube and Reddit comments?

Isn't this just an advertising platform? Why would we address criticisms here?

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by phaus on Saturday December 05, 2020 @02:41AM (#25312659)
When people notice an influential employee that works at a company is active in a community, that presents them with an opportunity to talk to a living breathing person that might actually respond to questions that they feel have been ignored by official channels. People ask questions like this all the time. Unfortunately, sometimes its the only way to get someone at a company to actually help you.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by ExcilSploft on Friday December 04, 2020 @06:34PM (#25309762)
Very interested in this company fyi in the "more to explore" section in https://goodfair.com/pages/about-us the three images are deceptively not linking to anything like the middle one says "our amazing blog" and is not a link. Not trying to nitpick but just something I noticed.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by marktangotango on Friday December 04, 2020 @04:00PM (#25307893)
How much do these bales cost usually? How would an individual buy them? I've visited one of the "ropa" stores in south Texas, the ones where they have massive piles of clothes you literally climb over to dig through, it was a real surprise those exist!
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by gumby on Friday December 04, 2020 @04:51PM (#25308617)
> it was a real surprise those exist!

There used to be a store like that in Cambridge next to MIT where real estate was essentially free. We used to go to one where you just filed a plastic bag; the bag was weighed and you paid $1/lb. Great for parties and amazing finds.

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by sbrother on Friday December 04, 2020 @05:03PM (#25308786)
Oh, I remember doing this - the Garment District? Looks like they are still around.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by gumby on Friday December 04, 2020 @05:37PM (#25309235)
Oh yeah, that was their real name! I couldn’t remember as we always called it “dollar a pound”
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by Arete314159 on Friday December 04, 2020 @08:06PM (#25310569)
The Garment District is the part upstairs that has cute vintage / upcycled ... Dollar a Pound is below.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by blackearl on Friday December 04, 2020 @06:22PM (#25309650)
No clue how they're handling post-covid but before they were still doing clothes by the pound as usual
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by wbraun on Friday December 04, 2020 @10:18PM (#25311387)
One of my friends got jabbed by a used needle in a pair of pants he bought from Dollar a Pound. It was not a fun experience for him...

I liked the clothes I got from there though! I found a cool jacket once.

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by gumby on Friday December 04, 2020 @11:41PM (#25311809)
I used to go there in the 80s so that would have been considered “extra authentic”.

Yes, kids are dumb.

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by Scoundreller on Friday December 04, 2020 @09:23PM (#25311058)
> next to MIT where real estate was essentially free

Is MIT built in/near a dump or something? Or you mean it was but definitely isn’t essentially free now? Or?

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by gumby on Friday December 04, 2020 @11:47PM (#25311842)
Basically yes. The very scungeiness and corruption of East Cambridge leant it charm. It wasn’t like Yale or Columbia, wealthy walled fortresses in poor neighborhoods. Nerds and blue collar folk lived tooth by jowl. And Kendall square was a wasteland of decaying industrial buildings and weed-filled concrete lots.

I went to high school in Boston (the city on other side of the river) which was much more dangerous. At MIT I never felt my life was in danger.

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by jmuhlich on Friday December 04, 2020 @10:40PM (#25311510)
Yeah, that part of Cambridge was originally all industry. It’s been changing slower than you would think.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by ejstronge on Saturday December 05, 2020 @02:23AM (#25312578)
That was true historically but all of the real estate around MIT is now worth millions
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by Arete314159 on Friday December 04, 2020 @08:05PM (#25310566)
It was literally called Dollar a Pound and it's where I got all my clothes as a teenager.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by gnopgnip on Saturday December 05, 2020 @02:29AM (#25312608)
The big 500-2000lb bales of clothes will sell for 15 to 20 cents a pound, it varies some depending on the quality of the clothing and the transportation and storage costs. If it is really all undamaged high quality clothing it could be more than $1 a lb, but generally what is sold in these big bales is a combination of it not being worth the time to sort and sell, and being damaged and not desirable. What isn't sold is recycled into rags, or sometimes sent overseas where the labor costs and incentives are different.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by nickthemagicman on Friday December 04, 2020 @05:33PM (#25309205)
This is a great idea! When I walk into goodwill it's a tsunami of clothing that I have to go through to look for a diamond. If there was an already curated site I would use that.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by elindbe2 on Friday December 04, 2020 @03:32PM (#25307447)
Curious what percentage of the clothes you buy actually sell? Anyways, nice website, I might try it out next time I'm looking for clothes.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by Scoundreller on Friday December 04, 2020 @04:13PM (#25308072)
> Curious what percentage of the clothes you buy actually sell

I mean, I guess if it doesn’t sell, they just bale it up again and off it goes to its original destination.

Their only cost is the initial sifting and warehousing.

And even then, they might be able to sell their pre-sifted inventory at higher prices baled-up for export.

Books aren’t too different:

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/23/business/23shortcuts.html

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by elindbe2 on Tuesday December 08, 2020 @10:45AM (#25346726)
That doesn't answer the question though, which was what percentage of clothes actually sell. I wasn't asking what happens if the clothes don't sell.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by ineedasername on Friday December 04, 2020 @05:21PM (#25309030)
When they are sold to international distributors instead, do they still make it to end users? Or do they land in some sort of recycling process for feed stock back into raw materials for new clothing?

I ask because, as much as I think US consumers can benefit from them, my greater concern is that they simply don't go to waste.

Either way, it's the first I've heard of your service, and it sounds fantastic. How do I get you my old clothes? Or is it aggregated and sold on to you through the network of goodwill stores and other thrift shops?

This is the sort of problem I love to hear being solved by tech & advanced logistics, rather than the latest startup that hopes to catch a piece of the advertising pie.

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by seanalexander on Friday December 04, 2020 @05:40PM (#25309261)
The clothes end up in third world countries where they are sold, hurting local industries.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by slim on Saturday December 05, 2020 @03:51PM (#25318216)
some of them end here in thrift shops in Tunisia. they get extended life. and no they don't hurt local industry. in fact we have an important clothing industry and it's mostly targeted towards export. so the clothes get exported new and come back as used. it's not unusual to find clothes made in Tunisia in thrift shops. the funny thing is the clothes are sold in thrift shops the same price (converted to dollars) they were sold new when exported. i find this distortion illustrates accurately the injustice in the world
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by ineedasername on Friday December 04, 2020 @09:15PM (#25311016)
Or their ability to focus on other higher margin production than clothing may be a net gain. Or not, I don't know. But I don't think it's as simple as "local clothing production suffers".
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by eigen on Friday December 04, 2020 @11:55PM (#25311878)
Planet Money did an episode several years ago.

https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/08/26/434988401/epis...

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by jeromegv on Friday December 04, 2020 @09:29PM (#25311104)
Dumping is rarely good for any economies. That’s why the US had anti dumping laws for their own market.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by gruez on Friday December 04, 2020 @09:49PM (#25311227)
Where does dumping start and comparative advantage start? Seems like the US has a high supply of cheap clothes, not unlike how new zealand has a high supply of cheep lamb.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by alisonkisk on Saturday December 05, 2020 @12:29AM (#25312046)
Dumping is selling stuff below cost.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by gruez on Saturday December 05, 2020 @09:04AM (#25314627)
And what's the definition of "cost"? Moreover, does exporting anything second-hand constitute "dumping"?
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by ineedasername on Saturday December 05, 2020 @11:25AM (#25315690)
Cost is the price for something of value. The two don't have to be correlated. I suppose where money is not involved, you might say the the costs are the repercussions.

By traditional usage of the word dumping, donating use items doesn't qualify. It's not being done to gain a non-competetive economic advantage. It's a semantic issue though: decide you want to construe the word a bit more abstractly and you can make it fit.

Lexical and semantic issue aside, freeing up local resources (people's time) to focus on education and learning higher level skills seems a reasonable plan. Not unlike what a family does when freeing up the time of it's youngest members to focus on learning. Of course in the context of foreign aid to a country, it presumes you don't just air drop in supplies for basic needs and leave it at that. If you're really interested in bootstrapping a population to a higher quality of life, you have to still ensure that learning etc. are available along with the capital infrastructure to create businesses and industries that utilize that learning. I'm not sure the developed world, when lending a hand to less developed countries, always gets that second part right.

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by alisonkisk on Saturday December 05, 2020 @12:29AM (#25312042)
Dumping is only a problem when it's used to create a monopoly.

Producing something efficiently for cheap is not dumping.

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by ineedasername on Saturday December 05, 2020 @03:34AM (#25312863)
It's not below cost if the goods don't have a resale value otherwise. Should they be destroyed so profits can be made by some other company selling clothes to the same population?
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by humaniania on Friday December 04, 2020 @06:31PM (#25309730)
Developing countries, not third world, that term is offensive. Those clothes allow people to open their own small business fashion boutiques which creates jobs. They lower prices and give consumers more choice. They do take away business from giant clothing brand companies that exploit labor in developing countries. What local industries does it hurt?
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by EL_Loco on Friday December 04, 2020 @06:46PM (#25309857)
> that term is offensive.

Sorry, but 'third world' is really only offensive to people from first world countries who find the term 'third world' offensive. Oh, and it might also be offensive to people in developing countries who can afford developed countries' lifestyles.

I may not agree with the usage either, but that's what I see all around the third world countries that I've been to, and the one where I have lived since I was born. No one really cares, and no one is offended (except see previous paragraph).

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by wayoutthere on Friday December 04, 2020 @07:32PM (#25310318)
“Third world” is a dumb term to use because it’s based on the Cold War where the USSR was the “second world” and that shit hasn’t existed for over 30 years. Developing / underdeveloped are better, far less amorphous terms. Agree it’s not really offensive, but it is a poor choice of words for reasons completely unrelated to political correctness.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by bawolff on Friday December 04, 2020 @08:39PM (#25310780)
At least its better than "global south". It was rediculous when people would start talking about "global north" countries like Australia.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by burntoutfire on Saturday December 05, 2020 @05:59AM (#25313552)
Yep, all these workarounds get used because some people force their sensibilities on everybody else. Obviously, the real divide is between "rich" and "poor" countries, but it's too "cruel" or "crass" to call things what they are. It seems that the poor don't mind that much, but the term is especially offensive for the rich, as it induces guilt in some of them and a fear of retribution in others. Anyway, whatever else is used in place of rich/poor, is bound to comically fall flat on its face, i.e.:

- "third world" should include Switzerland and Austria, as they were neutral during the cold war

- "developing countries" should not include places in major wars or civil wars (such as for example not Yemen), as they're clearly not developing, but rather deteriorating.

- as you point out, "global south" should include the wealthy Australia.

It also expands into other examples of hypocrisy, such as the term "African-American", which is just an euphemism for black Americans (which itself suggest that being black is bad somehow), but due to its clumsiness also includes lots of non-black people, such as Tunesian-Americans (no black people there).

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by cambalache on Saturday December 05, 2020 @12:58AM (#25312177)
Everybody knows that history , terms change with time, as someone who has lived all his life in the 3rd world, I have never met even 1 person who is offended by the term (I have met online a lot of first-worlders offended though). We use the term as sarcastic self-mockery and as encompassing umbrella to identify ourselves with nations all over the world under the same predicaments. Proud tercermundista here.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by EL_Loco on Saturday December 05, 2020 @08:08AM (#25314257)
> We use the term as sarcastic self-mockery and as encompassing umbrella to identify ourselves with nations all over the world under the same predicaments.

Yes, that's it. You said it better than I did.

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by spondyl on Saturday December 05, 2020 @03:11AM (#25312775)
As a first worlder, it never occurred to me that there was a second world so TIL

I had no idea it was related to the USSR at all and had just assumed third world strictly meant a poor nation

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by ClumsyPilot on Friday December 04, 2020 @09:26PM (#25311074)
Indeed it is very dumb because it does not categorise countries by development, in actuality is it only about their political alignment - 'neutral' countries were third world.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by betwixthewires on Friday December 04, 2020 @09:00PM (#25310916)
https://www.humanosphere.org/social-business/2014/09/toms-sh...

There is one article talking about the effect on local industry. The gist of it is that you help people out by giving them free stuff, but you kill the local food/clothing/shoe industry and therefore trap the very communities you intend to help into a cycle where they can never start businesses and raise their standard of living because nobody will buy their stuff because they get it for free through aid.

Also, the term "third world" is not offensive and most people are tired of playing this game where some group declares some term offensive and we are all expected to stop using it. You don't get to dictate the language people use to talk and think about the world around them.

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by xkcd-sucks on Friday December 04, 2020 @11:26PM (#25311738)
Do people really wear secondhand clothes and shoes if they care about appearance and can afford more fashionable, better fitting locally made stuff? This could be equally applicable to first-world countries, where most people don't wear cheap secondhand clothes although they're readily available
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by betwixthewires on Saturday December 05, 2020 @02:00PM (#25317252)
Nobody said anything about being fashionable.

I personally wear almost exclusively second hand clothes. The only things I buy new are shoes and underwear.

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by joshxyz on Friday December 04, 2020 @07:49PM (#25310440)
Im literally born and living in a third world country and its not offensive lol, but yea you're right people here LOVE those cheap quality clothes.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by jimkri on Friday December 04, 2020 @06:04PM (#25309509)
Thanks for posting, really interesting to read that process. Just went on the site and ordered some clothes!
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by DeepYogurt on Friday December 04, 2020 @04:23PM (#25308216)
> tl;dr WE WILL TAKE ALL YOUR CLOTHES. :)

Tell me more. Can I mail you a box?

Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by singhkays on Friday December 04, 2020 @04:48PM (#25308559)
+1. I've been dropping my used clothes in donation boxes but would love to know more and how I can contribute to sustainable causes.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by ComputerGuru on Friday December 04, 2020 @11:16PM (#25311696)
They're not even a non-profit. I'm sure there are much deserving places to give your clothes to.
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by fibbery on Saturday December 05, 2020 @12:38AM (#25312084)
Buy nothing group in your area!
Re:No One Wants Used Clothes Anymore (2018) by ryanmerket on Friday December 04, 2020 @05:32PM (#25309185)
We're rolling out donations >> Goodfair soon. That's a large logistical step, but we're well on our way!