Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher

Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by p49k on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:05PM (#25304784)

The numerator is such a small percentage because so many fear losing their jobs for speaking out. In that context, this number is quite significant. Even if you disagree with their stance, you have to admit that it takes courage to speak up in these kinds of situations.

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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by teen on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:29PM (#25305148)

Actually, it's more so the other way. If you agree with her firing, you can't say anything or you are a bigot

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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by bigphishy on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:06PM (#25304810)

That could be, although it is more than likely a small percentage because so many people do not agree with the cause.

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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by deeviant on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:09PM (#25304852)

Oh maybe that don't give a fuck and just want their big check?

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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by scarmig on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:26PM (#25305104)

Realistically, the majority just want this bad PR to go away and for Google to be better at preventing it from getting to this point.

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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by busterarm on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:09PM (#25304851)

Given the number of people I know who privately think that she resigned rather than got fired and similarly won't speak out (there's tons of internal threads talking about her being fired from what I can tell here), I think it actually is a small percentage.

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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by ClumsyPilot on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:19PM (#25305001)

> "think that she resigned rather than got fired"

Thats objectively one way or the other - it's not a matter of opinion.

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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by busterarm on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:48PM (#25305419)

I agree with you: When you say "do X or I quit", that's resigning and not being fired.

There's still a ton of people, including her, who think that she was fired. The amount of pushback from those folks for saying that she resigned has silenced a lot of people, from what I've seen.

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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by elefanten on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:10PM (#25304868)

Except that the “rallying” aligns with what is now the presumptive, dominant narrative.

It would be courageous to do the opposite.

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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by colonwqbang on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:16PM (#25304967)

What evidence do you have to support this theory?

Perhaps the people who are not speaking out in agreement with you simply don't agree with you.

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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by apta on Friday December 04, 2020 @03:26PM (#25307357)

It shows how deluded the far left is honestly, when they think that anyone who doesn't agree with them is afraid to speak up, and not because what the far left stands for is outrageously foolish.

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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by scarmig on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:31PM (#25305174)

No one at Google worries that signing a petition or Tweeting something is going to get them fired. No one in any kind of position of power reads or cares about these kinds of petitions, and it certainly doesn't ever reach the eyes of anyone on a promo committee.

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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by apta on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:16PM (#25304958)

> The numerator is such a small percentage because so many fear losing their jobs for speaking out

Or, more likely, they don't are about the whole "woke" movement and don't want anything to do with it.

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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by svrb on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:36PM (#25305250)

You could make the exact same claim about a flat earth rally.

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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by oh_sigh on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:10PM (#25304881)

This argument can be made about any unpopular subject.

Americans really want full-blown Communism, but are too afraid of speaking out for fear of retaliation from jack-booted capitalist thugs.

Prove me wrong.

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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by notSupplied on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:37PM (#25305265)

...and their silence about it only FURTHER proves there exists a mass conspiracy to muffle the voices for -some unpopular cause-

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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by RhysU on Friday December 04, 2020 @09:42PM (#25311179)

You, sir or madam, aced rhetoric and current events. I applaud you. Science must always be falsifiable.

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Re:Google staff rally behind fired AI researcher by mam2 on Friday December 04, 2020 @12:05PM (#25304792)

Or simply most people don't care... No one ever gets fired for just "rallying"

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