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Re:Obsolete trig functions and why we don't use them anymore... by seanc on Thursday December 03, 2020 @10:53AM (#25290056)
The trouble is that it is rare that trig identities are used for simplifying computations.

Most often they are used for simplifying expressions. For that purpose it's not a matter of deducing what they are, but recognizing them in the expression, and spotting the opportunity to use the identity on the path to eliminating terms.

For that purpose one needs to have them memorized in order to spot the opportunity -on the carefully derived homework problem- in the wild.

Re:Obsolete trig functions and why we don't use them anymore... by benrbray on Thursday December 03, 2020 @10:59AM (#25290147)
I generally just know that any trig formula can be converted to quite a few different other ones visa trig identities. Whether a certain expression is more or less complex than another is a matter of perspective and context.

If I'm stuck with a trig function I don't know what to do with, I just look on Wikipedia for a trig identity and don't worry about derivations or memorization.

This trick is good for exam settings though! My memory is terrible so I always relied on tricks like this in school

Re:Obsolete trig functions and why we don't use them anymore... by lopmotr on Thursday December 03, 2020 @11:58AM (#25291079)
What kind of exam requires you to memorize trig identities? Were they trying to prepare you for a world without paper or computers to look them up on? Or to be a smidgen faster at hand calculations?
Re:Obsolete trig functions and why we don't use them anymore... by jacobolus on Thursday December 03, 2020 @01:14PM (#25292322)
> Were they trying to prepare you for a world without paper or computers

Yes, most high schools spend a few months teaching “trigonometry” as a system for simplifying formulas that was primarily useful historically to save time for human calculators working with pen/paper and a printed lookup table. In the modern world this is entirely anachronistic and the content could be profitably compressed down to a couple weeks, with the saved time spent on something else. The main remaining utility is as rather cumbersome, unpleasant, and unenlightening algebra practice.

Re:Obsolete trig functions and why we don't use them anymore... by gmadsen on Friday December 04, 2020 @10:20AM (#25303194)
I think it would be enlightening but rarely done in school, is focus on the geometry of it and how the relationships are connected, such as https://math.wikia.org/wiki/Unit_circle?file=Unit_circle_ind...
Re:Obsolete trig functions and why we don't use them anymore... by lynndotpy on Thursday December 03, 2020 @02:44PM (#25293654)
I always understood the memorization part as a stopgap to truly understanding them.

In the same sense that doing this work by hand will build depth of understanding, I know that remembering the trig identities came before really understanding their relationships. And that also came far before I could truly understand Euler's formula, radians, etc.