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Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by xd1936 on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @02:00PM (#25279993)
Agreed. And I have a small child. I _really_ don't want them to be forming "relationships" with brands by asking robot assistants named after corporations to do stuff.
Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by enobrev on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @06:37PM (#25283317)
This is what has led us to stop using our assistants around the house. I have 4 of those little google pucks around the house that we used for various tasks and automations. Now that we have a 1-year-old we almost never use them because I don't want him learning the phrase "ok google".

It sounded dumb enough for two adults to say it all day, but the convenience was worth it. Having my little one start using the phrase to talk to things is definitely where I draw the line.

Besides, now that it tries to make suggestions after every other command all you really hear in my house in regards to them is "hey google shut the fuck up and do what you're told". Unfortunately the stupid puck doesn't allow you to interrupt the unsolicited FAQ any longer.

Come to think of it, I think I'm getting rid of most of these things this weekend.

Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by Talanes on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @11:07PM (#25285265)
My Alexa really needs a way to whitelist commands. I bought it to be a wireless clapper and fancy alarm clock. If it thinks I'm asking it anything outside of those two domains, I am not.

Of course Amazon isn't likely to ever do such a thing, because god forbid we don't have the ability to suddenly order something from Amazon on every device at all times.

Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by curryst on Thursday December 03, 2020 @01:14PM (#25292320)
> Of course Amazon isn't likely to ever do such a thing, because god forbid we don't have the ability to suddenly order something from Amazon on every device at all times.

Comically, that's actually one of the things its the worst at. I tried to do it exactly once and swore I would never do it again. In the time it takes to read the first search result, I could have found and ordered what I want from my phone. If that's what they were going for, I can't believe they didn't scrap the project.

Supposedly they're fairly good at re-ordering, but given how often Alexa mis-hears me, I'm not a fan of doing anything involving money on it.

Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by tyingq on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @07:02PM (#25283514)
That's interesting. The Amazon devices can be configured with a wake word of "Alexa", "Amazon", "Echo" or "Computer". I see Google offers no way to not say "Google".
Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by spoonjim on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @06:02PM (#25282953)
We have kids too. We use "Computer" which is one of the wake words offered by Amazon because we don't want our kids to get used to the idea of bossing around a person.

Also, I've mapped all of the functions we use to "recipes" that include the word "please" so that they don't work unless you use the word "please." i.e. the upstairs lights are named as for example "the Chicago lights" and there is a recipe that says "turn on the Chicago lights" when someone utters "Computer, please turn on the upstairs lights." So if you say "Computer, turn on the upstairs lights" it says "I don't know what upstairs lights are."

The disadvantage of this approach is that you need to get the string exactly as stored.

Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by hanoz on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @07:04PM (#25283524)
"OK Computer, play some cheery music please"

"#Karma.. Police.. Arrest this man, he talks in maths...#"

Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by WalterBright on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @10:23PM (#25284975)
"That is something I cannot allow to happen."
Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by dimitrios1 on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @09:49PM (#25284700)
Most likely, everyone you know, especially outside of tech, when referencing a search engine, says to "google it".

There are, unfortunately, millions of ways we form relationships with brands. A brand's reason for existing is to live somewhere in our psyche either subconsciously or consciously. We say "Q-tip" instead of cotton swab, "band-aid" instead of bandage, "Advil" when we need ibuprofen, or "Tylenol" when we want acetaminophen. When we see white polar bears around Christmas time, we think of Coca-Cola, and so on and so forth.

All that to say, kudos for you for taking a principled approach, but I am not sure it's going to achieve much.

Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by skaber on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @06:19PM (#25283122)
I think you can trigger Google assistant by using "OK Boo Boo". It works on the Google Home and on my Android phone, and is actually easier for toddlers.
Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by kelnos on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @11:26PM (#25285365)
If you say it with the right cadence, "cocaine poodle" can trigger it too.
Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by methodin on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @06:40PM (#25283342)
This is a great tip. `Hey Boo Boo` is much easier to say too.
Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by Igelau on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @08:12PM (#25284038)
Seems like we're spending an awful lot on picnic basket deliveries...
Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by crtasm on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @02:37PM (#25280529)
Not that I want any part in increasing use of always-listening devices, but can't you change the trigger word on these things?

I've been meaning to have a play with https://mycroft.ai/ but only out of interest, I don't see myself leaving it running.

Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by hrktb on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @03:35PM (#25281214)
For Google devices you can’t change the trigger.

Now you can mispronounce it, that’s the only leeway we get.

Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by naravara on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @05:01PM (#25282275)
> Now you can mispronounce it, that’s the only leeway we get.

Not a bad option. I would much prefer asking 19th century Russian author, Nikolai Gogol, to turn on the lights.

Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by malandrew on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @02:13PM (#25280185)
You can also think of it as a robot assistant that is named after a number.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_numbers#Named_numbers

Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by medium_burrito on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @05:17PM (#25282466)
Like that makes it any better.

"I am not a number I am a free man!"

Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by tclancy on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @06:41PM (#25283351)
You are Number Six.
Re:Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Sp... by pinewurst on Wednesday December 02, 2020 @04:59PM (#25282237)
No, we're their numbers...