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Re:Ethereum 2.0 launches by tryptophan on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @08:30AM (#25264917)
Yes. But thats the point of PoS. Why would someone who owns >50% of something want to destroy it? Literally hurting yourself more just to hurt others a lesser amount.
Re:Ethereum 2.0 launches by mathnmusic on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @08:36AM (#25264954)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you own > 50% and get the ability to reverse transactions, it can still go undetected. So it's possible to hurt others without hurting yourself.
Re:Ethereum 2.0 launches by CydeWeys on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @08:45AM (#25265030)
How would it go undetected? The people whose transactions are being reversed would definitely notice, as would anyone else paying close attention to said transactions.
Re:Ethereum 2.0 launches by Cthulhu_ on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @08:46AM (#25265039)
In theory yes, but in practice the people most involved (holding large stakes) would pull out of the system en masse, crashing the value and (probably) the whole network with it. Same with BTC. In theory anyway.
Re:Ethereum 2.0 launches by progval on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @09:14AM (#25265295)
What if those people had more to lose by pulling out than pretending nothing happened as long as the 51% attacker does not abuse it "too much"?
Re:Ethereum 2.0 launches by everfree on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @10:40PM (#25273001)
It definitely doesn't go undetected, as the conflicting transactions would have to be in blocks both forking from a common block, both signed by the attacker, which is a slashing condition that would burn their staked ether.
Re:Ethereum 2.0 launches by jillesvangurp on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @08:34AM (#25264944)
Also, it would be kind of visible and hard to hide. With sufficient high profile stake holders, this would be very unlikely to happen and even harder to hide.
Re:Ethereum 2.0 launches by yodsanklai on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @08:53AM (#25265095)
Ok, but suppose someone owns 50% of the tokens. Doesn't this mean the system is de facto centralized. Even if the majority holder behave well, how is it better than a centralized solution?
Re:Ethereum 2.0 launches by tskulbru on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @08:35AM (#25264953)
Unrealistic surely but, "Some just wants to watch the world burn"
Re:Ethereum 2.0 launches by flixic on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @08:41AM (#25264998)
Another aspect of PoS: it makes these attacks incredibly expensive. Currently staked value is over half a billion USD.
Re:Ethereum 2.0 launches by floatboth on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @09:23PM (#25272589)
Someone (very rich) could bet even more money on that thing falling..?
Re:Ethereum 2.0 launches by Reedx on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @02:42PM (#25268982)
If a large government decides it's a problem, would they hold it or destroy it?