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Re:The Covid Science Wars by fastball on Monday November 30, 2020 @10:02PM (#25261813)
It's not a false equivalency because I'm not saying the two diseases are equivalent.

I'm asking where we draw the line. Yes the flu is less severe than COVID-19. The question is not which is worse. It is how many lives do we need to save with these measures in order to make it "worth it"? Who determines that? How do we determine that?

We apparently decided it is worth it for COVID-19. Ok, but then why not for the flu. It kills people too, just not as many. What about something in between the flu in COVID in terms of lethality?

Re:The Covid Science Wars by jusssi on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @03:56AM (#25263644)
Like your parent said, the difference is the tendency for COVID-19 to eat up all health care capacity.

Appendicitis? Stroke? Car accident? Sorry, the hospital is full of COVID patients, we can't take you in. Go home, lie down, see if it gets better.

This is the scenario we're trying to avoid. If the flu would do that, we'd have lockdowns for it too.

Re:The Covid Science Wars by an_opabinia on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @12:58AM (#25262796)
I don’t know what to tell you, we should have probably banned tobacco a long time ago. You’re arguing against a kafkacracy, not scientists.
Re:The Covid Science Wars by watwut on Tuesday December 01, 2020 @03:35AM (#25263531)
> Ok, but then why not for the flu. It kills people too, just not as many.

Literally because of "just not as many" part. Yes, real world policies do some cold calculations about "how many people die" and have arbitrary lines. Arbitrary lines are actually ok. Better then arbitrary line on either "never ever" or "totally all the time" extreme. Also, we literally close schools when flu get out of control in some area - for a week or so and that is enough for flu to get under control. There is also huge push for flu vaccines each year. It is not true that no flu management is done, there is a lot of flu management going on.

Like, I dont know whether it is consequences of two party system, but the whole "we either lock everything for every reason or never nothing at all" and "we cant possibly think in probabilities and death rates and nuance" is frankly, idiotic.