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Re:Thought-Control Tactics Narcissists Use to Confuse and Do... by dredmorbius on Saturday November 28, 2020 @04:33PM (#25240748)
A similar and larger set I've found compelling:

"20 Diversion Tactics Highly Manipulative Narcissists, Sociopaths And Psychopaths Use To Silence You"

https://thoughtcatalog.com/shahida-arabi/2016/06/20-diversio...

The list from TFA borrows strongly from logical fallacies: https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Logical_fallacy

The Greeks compiled an early list of bullshit arguments that must die: http://classics.mit.edu/Aristotle/sophist_refut.1.1.html

Re:Thought-Control Tactics Narcissists Use to Confuse and Do... by cwilkes on Sunday November 29, 2020 @11:03AM (#25245929)
Thanks, I liked the description of projection: that it only works if the victim projects their own sympathies onto the aggressor.

That is to say: when the victim starts to think “maybe that person is being honest and just wants the best outcome for both of us as that’s what I want” then the instigator has won.

Re:Thought-Control Tactics Narcissists Use to Confuse and Do... by ulucs on Sunday November 29, 2020 @03:48AM (#25243879)
This list is much more compelling, seeing that the article has devolved the comment section into shouting "fallacy!" to each other, while not recognising the irony is that they're also committing a fallacy (fallacy fallacy, or fallacy dropping as the lw list names) themselves.
Re:Thought-Control Tactics Narcissists Use to Confuse and Do... by dredmorbius on Sunday November 29, 2020 @04:46AM (#25244085)
Which list does "this" refer to?

On further examination, Thought Catalog (which I'm linking) doesn't seem to be the most robust of sources, having a dedicated astrology section:

https://thoughtcatalog.com/category/astrology/

Sorting signal from noise is frustratingly hard. Something of a trend across psychology.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/replication-crisis

Re:Thought-Control Tactics Narcissists Use to Confuse and Do... by specialist on Sunday November 29, 2020 @10:49AM (#25245802)
Ya. To me, these guides are just describing the human condition.

Struggling for an analogy here.

We're basically stuck at the bottom of a sand dune. Irrational at the bottom, more rational as you get higher. Gravity always. Ever more sand being added at the top.

Being "smarter" takes a lot of effort. Few of us have the training, experience, or excess energy to do so consistently or well.

Maybe sociopathy is just weaponized irrationality, somehow exploiting these universal weaknesses, knowingly or not.