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Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by ChrisMarshallNY on Thursday November 26, 2020 @08:26PM (#25224831)
Hey landlords! Try the new Amazon Deadbeat-B-Gone™ service! $19.99/month!

Never have to worry about being a lead in Pacific Heights again!

Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by mrzimmerman on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:12PM (#25225042)
A friend of mine who lives in New York actually has an apartment where all building an unit access uses an RFID enabled lock system with an app on the phone. It’s very easy for the owner to lock someone out and the system went out twice and they couldn’t get in. She doesn’t even get a physical key for a back up.
Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by whoopdedo on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:35PM (#25225133)
Read the lease carefully. Two years ago some tenants in NYC won a lawsuit against their landlord for not giving them keys.[1]

Anyway, I assume Amazon is already considering what GP proposed. They have a program called Alexa for Residential[2] marketed to property managers who want to put IoT things in apartments.

[1] https://www.cnet.com/news/tenants-win-rights-to-physical-key...

[2] https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2020/09/amazons-alexa-for-landlor...

Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by donmcronald on Thursday November 26, 2020 @09:38PM (#25225147)
"Alexa, evict the peasant in apartment 6B."
Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by pdkl95 on Thursday November 26, 2020 @11:13PM (#25225492)
"Alexa, have you got a 27B/6?"
Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by ChrisMarshallNY on Friday November 27, 2020 @06:59AM (#25227932)
David Thorne?
Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by pdkl95 on Friday November 27, 2020 @07:55AM (#25228312)
Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by ChrisMarshallNY on Friday November 27, 2020 @08:06AM (#25228377)
Thanks! Forgotten about that (I see that Jonathan Pryce is young, so my lapse is to be forgiven).

This was what I meant: http://www.27bslash6.com

He's well worth the read.

Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by KineticLensman on Friday November 27, 2020 @09:51AM (#25229106)
Video not available, in the UK at least. Although I think I know the scene you mean.
Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by TedDoesntTalk on Thursday November 26, 2020 @10:19PM (#25225301)
Our fucking community pool has an app to unlock the gate. Why do I need to install your app to open a gate?

I refused to install it and demanded a keycard. People look at me like I’m a freak when I open the door with it.

Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by skeletonjelly on Thursday November 26, 2020 @11:37PM (#25225580)
You should intercept the API calls it uses!
Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by fakedang on Friday November 27, 2020 @01:50AM (#25226121)
Honest question. How do you intercept and retrieve an API that communicates within an app?
Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by rl1987 on Friday November 27, 2020 @06:47AM (#25227867)
Assuming it does not use TLS cert pinning, you can use mitmproxy [0].

[0] https://mitmproxy.org/

Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by nickserv on Friday November 27, 2020 @02:51AM (#25226405)
If it's on WiFi, any old packet sniffer on the network should do the job. If it's on cellular, you'll need to have access to police equipment.
Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by ThermalCube on Friday November 27, 2020 @03:32AM (#25226605)
Cellular data? just connect your phone to your own VPN (like a RaspPi) and sniff there
Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by tpetry on Friday November 27, 2020 @04:31AM (#25226955)
A packet sniffer on the network will not help with tls encrypted endpoints.

The charles proxy with custom ssl certificates may help if the certificate is not pinned in the app.

Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by TeMPOraL on Friday November 27, 2020 @05:46AM (#25227481)
I'm going to bet a beer it's not encrypted at all. Too much hassle, so plenty of hardware vendors don't bother.
Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by tpetry on Saturday November 28, 2020 @09:38AM (#25237750)
With everyone putting their services behind cliudflare or aws loadbalancer you very seldom see a http endpoint nowadays.
Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by nezgar on Friday November 27, 2020 @09:56AM (#25229143)
HTTPS MITM + Wireshark If it even uses HTTPS lol
Re:Due to a problem with AWS, many "smart" vacuums or doorbe... by jeofken on Saturday November 28, 2020 @05:32PM (#25241112)
Wireshark is popular for this