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Re:How once-elusive laser weapons suddenly became a reality by mips_avatar on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:58PM (#25216203)
It's really amazing how accurately these laser systems work. I was amazed that SpaceX Starlink uses lasers to communicate between nodes. How do they aim so accurately?
Re:How once-elusive laser weapons suddenly became a reality by mhh__ on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @11:10PM (#25216731)
In a more regular appliance, the current Valve Lighthouse VR-tracking system works by sweeping lasers very precisely across a room and using the timing differences across the sensors on the HMD to triangulate its position in the room.

There is a good talk by one of the engineers who worked on the initial prototypes, and IIRC they both require and are able to achieve something like nm accuracy when they sweep the rotating masses with the lasers on them (That is, not only is the frequency very precisely controlled, the phase cannot drift either). With the help of some custom components they can do that for a hundred bucks.

I'm slightly hesitant to go into it for mostly ethical reasons, but military technology has always fascinated me if purely because of the toys they get to play with. The amount of gear even a World War 2 aircraft had by the end of still surprises me, i.e. The Mosquito had a primitive version of what we would now call a HUD displaying a radar horizon and a gunsight. Know-how and an unlimited budget go a very long way.

Re:How once-elusive laser weapons suddenly became a reality by walrus01 on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @10:15PM (#25216515)
starlink doesn't, yet, all of the satellites so far are bent pipes. They're working on it however. It may not end up using lasers, but something in the E band RF for intersatellite links.
Re:How once-elusive laser weapons suddenly became a reality by zaroth on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @10:40PM (#25216607)
They have a couple birds up there with lasers. As I understand it, the unit price for the necessary actuators is too high right now to deploy thousands of them.
Re:How once-elusive laser weapons suddenly became a reality by richk449 on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @10:56PM (#25216673)
Got links to any info about space-x using e-band inter-satellite links? I hadn’t heard that before.
Re:How once-elusive laser weapons suddenly became a reality by walrus01 on Thursday November 26, 2020 @07:44PM (#25224638)
there's fcc filings where they reference V and E band.
Re:How once-elusive laser weapons suddenly became a reality by cma on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @10:00PM (#25216463)
Lasers still expand over time, and can expand more with lenses, so it isn't like hitting a laser pointer sized target.
Re:How once-elusive laser weapons suddenly became a reality by TheSpiceIsLife on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @10:11PM (#25216500)
That's right.

By the time the laser reaches the target receiver it could be covering an area of tens of meters, or grater, and still be usefully detected.

Think about the tiny amount of energy emitted by a mobile phone transmitter and still able to he usefully detected by an antenna on a tower kilometres away.

Re:How once-elusive laser weapons suddenly became a reality by kevin_thibedeau on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @10:00PM (#25216464)
Lasercoms has been around for decades.
Re:How once-elusive laser weapons suddenly became a reality by stripline on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @09:40PM (#25216376)
I don't think they can yet..
Re:How once-elusive laser weapons suddenly became a reality by exabrial on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @09:29PM (#25216326)
Stepper motors and an active feedback loop most likely.
Re:How once-elusive laser weapons suddenly became a reality by thereisnospork on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @10:00PM (#25216460)
The positional accuracy of the motors aiming the lasers (relative to the satellite orientation) probably comes from optical encoders. I'd expect servos in an active loop as you mentioned, rather than steppers - which tend to settle at 1.8* increments.

Either way I have no idea how they work out the firing solution for the comm lasers with sufficient accuracy. Hypothesizing: maybe they shoot multiple lasers, the main comm laser and a alignment pattern with auxiliary lasers which could be used for targeting feedback?