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Re:Australia’s spy agencies caught collecting Covid-19 app data by evolve2k on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @03:31PM (#25213962)
This was the Prime Ministers original announcement on COVIDSafe.

“To be effective, users should have the app running in the background when they are coming into contact with others. Your phone does not need to be unlocked for the app to work.”

“It then securely makes a ‘digital handshake’, which notes the date and time, distance and duration of the contact. All information collected by the app is securely encrypted and stored in the app on the user’s phone. No one, not even the user, can access it.”

“Unless and until a person is diagnosed with COVID-19, no contact information collected in the app is disclosed or able to be accessed. Then, once the person agrees and uploads the data, only the relevant state or territory public health officials will have access to information. The only information they are allowed to access is that of close contacts – when a person has come within approximately 1.5 metres of another app user for 15 minutes or more – in their jurisdiction,” Minister Robert said.

Ref: https://www.pm.gov.au/media/covidsafe-new-app-slow-spread-co...

Re:Australia’s spy agencies caught collecting Covid-19 app data by pedalpete on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @04:35PM (#25214559)
I never saw ScoMo's annoucement, but there was no way I was going to download the app, and told everyone else not to.

Having said that, the architecture he is describing is similar to what co-worker and I had been discussing. So had the app been built that way, and had they been able to give me the confidence in their capabilities, I would have been ok with it.

What we have now is a bunch of random companies that are getting our phone number and/or email address, and the locations we visit. No real oversight, completely useless for any sort of real tracking.

It's a shame when we have a lack of trust in the gov't, but the alternatives are no better. What should we really be doing.

In some ways, we're lucky to have so little covid here, but what are other countries doing?

Re:Australia’s spy agencies caught collecting Covid-19 app data by evolve2k on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @03:43PM (#25214091)
Everyone that downloaded that app, downloaded it as an act of goodwill and for most it took looking beyond our better judgement of “not trusting the government”.

It’s a major breach of trust. I think this is a disaster when it comes to the governments future plans around having the population vaccinate.

Once the trust is gone, large scale public policy initiatives are doomed.

So angry.