How the U.S. Used Disinformation and the 'Jakarta Method' to Change the World

Re:How the U.S. Used Disinformation and the 'Jakarta Method'... by scoot_718 on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @07:50AM (#25208662)

> when was the last time you've [...] seen a balanced view given on Russia-U.S. relations?

All the time. It's fucked and Russia fucked it.

The wonderful thing about being in a free nation is the access to the news of other countries. It helps you see which ones are the outliers. It's not yours.

> In the last three years the New York Times hasn’t reported a single positive story on Russia

Gee, I wonder why that might be? Nobody is going to write anything positive when a nation has expelled independent journalists, assassinated people in foreign nations, caused wars in others, been aggressively attacking fishing vessels, attempted assassinations of their own politicans, attacking their own citizens for their religion.

Who is going to care about human interest stories from such a nation?

What would be a positive story you'd like to see printed in that time frame? Name one.

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Re:How the U.S. Used Disinformation and the 'Jakarta Method'... by wazoox on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @11:18AM (#25210796)

But do you realize that everything you're damning Russia for, the US is doing exactly the same right now ? Case in point: Assange persecution, war in Afghanistan, Irak, Libya; "targeted assassination" of various people, more recently an Iranian general, waged coups around the world, most recently Bolivia, Brazil, etc. "Who is going to care about human interest stories from such a nation"?

Man it's time that you grow up out of "manifest destiny".

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Re:How the U.S. Used Disinformation and the 'Jakarta Method'... by JacKTrocinskI on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @12:27PM (#25211707)

Russian hostility only really began in 2008, prior to that Russia really tried to have good relations with the U.S. They even wanted to join NATO and offered to help in Iraq. It's the U.S. that soured the relations, not Russia.

EDIT: I am distinguishing Russia from the Soviet Union here.

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Re:How the U.S. Used Disinformation and the 'Jakarta Method'... by dash2 on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @08:16AM (#25208870)

Actually, you will do much better at understanding Russia if you understand all of it, including the positive sides. In fact, here, go read the Moscow Times:

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/

They're seriously critical of the government, but they don't make the mistake of thinking all there is to report is misery.

Context: I'm not pro-Russia, I think Putin is a wholesale scumbag, for all their faults I greatly prefer the US and the West to any of the alternatives, and I deeply distrust knee-jerk anti-Western leftists.

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Re:How the U.S. Used Disinformation and the 'Jakarta Method'... by pxlmnk on Wednesday November 25, 2020 @09:27AM (#25209524)

> All the time. It's fucked and Russia fucked it.

hahahah case in point right here folks

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