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Re:Upgrade Raspberry Pi 4 with a NVMe boot drive by lifty on Monday November 23, 2020 @01:45PM (#25190099)
Does anyone know any board that is similar to RPi 4, with 8GB of RAM or more and a SATA port or an nvme slot? ARM would be great.
Re:Upgrade Raspberry Pi 4 with a NVMe boot drive by jamesfmilne on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:37PM (#25190749)
Re:Upgrade Raspberry Pi 4 with a NVMe boot drive by unnouinceput on Monday November 23, 2020 @03:52PM (#25191681)
The price difference though...
Re:Upgrade Raspberry Pi 4 with a NVMe boot drive by othercharles on Monday November 23, 2020 @01:54PM (#25190199)
Generally speaking you can choose either power efficiency or a wide bus, but rarely both. If you want a crappy underpowered m.2 slot, probably Intel Atom is the cheapest route.

High performance ARM with m.2 PCI, not sure, but guessing if it's around it probably isn't cheap

Re:Upgrade Raspberry Pi 4 with a NVMe boot drive by throwaway894345 on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:33PM (#25190697)
Let's say one has a friend who doesn't know what "a wide bus" refers to... What would be a good way of explaining it to said friend?
Re:Upgrade Raspberry Pi 4 with a NVMe boot drive by othercharles on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:53PM (#25190951)
A single PCIe lane can draw 0.5 A, 4x rises to 2 A.

Separately, (random top Google result cutpaste):

    Architectural-level power optimization can target different system
    components such as CPU, caches, main memory,and buses [5, 6, 22, 4]. Power
    spent in off-chip buses can be a significant portion of the overall power
    budget. As an example, the core power consumption of Intel Celeron at
    266MHz is 16W, while its off-chip bus (for a standard configuration)
    operating at 133 MHz consumes 3.3W [12, 13]. The contribution of off-chip
    bus power consumption to the overall power budget increases even more for
    embedded systems with low-power processor cores and memories, making
    off-chip  buses  a  potential  candidate  for  power  optimization. Figure
    1 shows the power consumption due to off-chip data bus for several embedded
    benchmark codes as a percentage of the overall power consumption (which
    includes processor data path, caches, buses, TLB, register file,
    instruction issue logic, clock, and off-chip memory) for an
    embedded processor.  From this figure, we see that the off-chip data bus
    consumes between 9.8% and 23.2% of the total power consumed by the system
    depending on the benchmark being run. So, reducing the power consumption
    of the off-chip data bus would reduce the overall power consumption of
    the system to a considerable extent
Re:Upgrade Raspberry Pi 4 with a NVMe boot drive by mixmastamyk on Monday November 23, 2020 @03:33PM (#25191426)
More lanes on the freeway.
Re:Upgrade Raspberry Pi 4 with a NVMe boot drive by lifty on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:07PM (#25190378)
Yeah, that makes sense. I wouldn't expect the same price point as an RPi and would love a higher performance CPU, but I think they are not out there at the moment. Wouldn't mind having something like 8 graviton2 cores and an nvme slot :)
Re:Upgrade Raspberry Pi 4 with a NVMe boot drive by m-p-3 on Monday November 23, 2020 @01:57PM (#25190246)
Maybe there's something out there, but I don't know of any other SBCs than the Pi4 having more or equal to 8GB.

If you can settle for 4GB, there's tye Rock Pi 4 which has a variant with on-board eMMC or an m.2 slot.

Re:Upgrade Raspberry Pi 4 with a NVMe boot drive by tuatoru on Monday November 23, 2020 @03:10PM (#25191148)
Also Friendlyarm's NanoPC T4.

M.2 PCIe x4, 4GB LPDDR3 (a bit old perhaps).

https://www.friendlyarm.com/index.php?route=product/product&...

Re:Upgrade Raspberry Pi 4 with a NVMe boot drive by mceachen on Monday November 23, 2020 @11:54PM (#25195384)
Odroid has a 4gb with sata ports: https://www.hardkernel.com/shop/odroid-hc4/

The new pi compute module has an 8gb model with a pci-express slot that can take nvme: https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/compute-module-4-io-boa...

Re:Upgrade Raspberry Pi 4 with a NVMe boot drive by myhf on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @07:06AM (#25197680)
Many systems based on Rockchip RK3399 have a native SATA/nvme interface, but only go up to 4GB ram.

Comparison of "Model B" single-board computers: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jWMaK-26EEAKMhmp6SLh...

Re:Upgrade Raspberry Pi 4 with a NVMe boot drive by shorts_theory on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:32PM (#25190684)
Considerably more powerful and expensive, but the Jetson TX2 or Xavier NX fits this niche quite well.
Re:Upgrade Raspberry Pi 4 with a NVMe boot drive by unnouinceput on Monday November 23, 2020 @03:54PM (#25191714)
If you're going to spend $400 for a Jetson, you might add another $100 and just get a powerful tablet and bet better performance
Re:Upgrade Raspberry Pi 4 with a NVMe boot drive by pstadler on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:50PM (#25190905)
Check out the upcoming Turing Pi 2. Seems very promising in every regard.

https://turingpi.com/

Re:Upgrade Raspberry Pi 4 with a NVMe boot drive by nuker on Tuesday November 24, 2020 @02:09AM (#25196080)
Seeedstudio ODYSSEY X86J4105800, $190. It has 2x M.2 slots and they have 5x SATA M.2 card too.
Re:Upgrade Raspberry Pi 4 with a NVMe boot drive by 1996 on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:52PM (#25190939)
Rockpi M4V2, not ideal on RAM but does the job with eMMC or SD or NVMEe boot after reflash