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Re:To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided by dredmorbius on Sunday November 22, 2020 @12:07PM (#25179011)
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.

-- Anatole France

Re:To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided by cscurmudgeon on Sunday November 22, 2020 @01:08PM (#25179523)
The law, also in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to murder, physically harm others etc.

Less fancy.

Consistency is not perfect but it is better than dictators picking favorites.

Re:To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided by sandworm101 on Sunday November 22, 2020 @12:24PM (#25179152)
And when short of bread, both rich and poor alike are free to eat cake.
Re:To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided by disposekinetics on Sunday November 22, 2020 @01:01PM (#25179465)
I’ve never gotten this quote. On the face of it it seems like a high priority that the law should not respect the station of a person. If a society has made something illegal it needs to apply from the least to the greatest, or the law is unjust.
Re:To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided by AlphaSite on Sunday November 22, 2020 @02:43PM (#25180378)
I think what I would take from it is that it all though the laws are the same, they do not effect each person in the same way.

How likely is it for the rich to sleep I under a bridge, beg or steal bread? Those are crimes to punish those too poor to be able to afford anything else.

Or to put it another way, it’s a crime to be poor.

Re:To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided by disposekinetics on Sunday November 22, 2020 @05:02PM (#25181521)
Isn't that just to say that murder is a crime both for the pacifist and the psycopath? If society deems something to be illegal it is illegal for both those who would never do it and those who could gain from doing it. That is fundamental for all laws.
Re:To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided by dredmorbius on Sunday November 22, 2020 @07:00PM (#25182247)
There is law and there is justice.
Re:To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided by disposekinetics on Sunday November 22, 2020 @08:42PM (#25182804)
To my mind that is what I am advocating for, a law must apply universally to be just.
Re:To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided by octoberfranklin on Sunday November 22, 2020 @11:13PM (#25183509)
There is social justice and there are social laws.

Oh wait, footgun...

Re:To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided by octoberfranklin on Sunday November 22, 2020 @11:12PM (#25183502)
It's one of those quotes you shouldn't think about too much, because it really makes no sense. It's meant to make people feel. Because feelings are easier to manipulate than thoughts.
Re:To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided by AnimalMuppet on Sunday November 22, 2020 @11:30PM (#25183595)
I strongly disagree. It has a clear point, one you can understand quite clearly with your mind.

Laws against doing things that only desperate poor people do may appear equal, since they in theory apply just as much to the rich. But in practice they only affect the poor. And the way they affect the poor is to close off options, and thereby increase the desperation.

Sure, you should feel that. You should also understand it with your mind.

Re:To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided by thaumasiotes on Sunday November 22, 2020 @03:38PM (#25180833)
> On the face of it it seems like a high priority that the law should not respect the station of a person.

Generally the opposite is true. Consider, say, sumptuary laws.

Re:To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided by dredmorbius on Sunday November 22, 2020 @02:30PM (#25180273)
Equally-applied law sustains inequity.
Re:To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided by disposekinetics on Sunday November 22, 2020 @05:06PM (#25181566)
Any sort of bettering that is not globally experienced equally sustains inequity. To go to an absurd place the improvements I made to my garden this year sustain inequity since I now have and enjoy them and others do not, but they would if I had donated the same amount of time to a community garden. That alone should not be a compelling reason to act.
Re:To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided by thesuperbigfrog on Sunday November 22, 2020 @04:38PM (#25181344)
Inequity is a natural state.

Should discrimination be applied to achieve "equity"?

If so, how is that fair to those being discriminated against?

Re:To do politics or not do politics? Tech startups are divided by dredmorbius on Monday November 23, 2020 @02:33PM (#25190696)
Inequality sustained or increased by the law of man is entirely artificial.

Discrimination has long been applied to achieve inequality. I'm willing to try the opposite as a countermeasure.

https://www.newberry.org/newberry-and-restrictive-covenants