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Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by rrrrrrrrrrrryan on Friday November 20, 2020 @11:13AM (#25161772)
I think they're (one of?) the only smart speakers on the market to automatically calibrate themselves to the room. I'm sure it's just some EQ and maybe a bit of phase adjustment, but the speaker doing it automatically for you whenever you reposition it is a nontrivial feature that makes the audio sound noticably better than much of the competition.
Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by rsanheim on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:27PM (#25164577)
Yeah its pretty crazy how advanced its sound calibration is. It uses its microphones (six of them) to measure the response of the sound in the room according to where its placed, and adjusts itself on the fly so that it sounds as good as it does.

So if you pick up your homepod and move it in your room - say from in the middle of the table to near a wall, it will change its sound profile (after about half a minute) to lower bass and minimize reflective frequencies from the wall. Having an omnidirectional speaker blast into the wall would not sound good without that kinda calibration, as you would get reflective sounds from the wall and too much bass.

It does further calibration like this one put in a stereo pair to make sure _both_ homepods are outputting the best sound together.

The audiophile equivalent of this is getting a good mic, hook it up to your $5k stereo, and then use the manufacturer provided software to calibrate it. Then never move anything around your room again or hang new art of throw down a rug, because if you do that you have to recalibrate again.

The homepod is really some crazy audio engineering. One of apple patents describes some of stuff that probably went into the Homepod [1]. There is also a fun review [2] that was posted on the reddit audiophile back when the homepods first came out.

1 - http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=.... 2 - https://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/7wwtqy/apple_ho...

Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by giobox on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:04PM (#25164341)
If you are technically inclined, this isn't that hard to do. You will need a calibrated mic, but result is you can do Sonos style adjustments to calibrate for a room on any set of speakers:

https://www.hifiberry.com/docs/hifiberryos/hifiberryos-room-...

https://www.hifiberry.com/shop/boards/hifiberry-dac-dsp/

They maintain a list of supported microphones.

You can even bake the configuration into the HifiBerry DSP once done, it doesn't need the Pi attached to apply the room correction. The included HifiBerry OS software has a setup process that makes calibrating the room with mic just as easy as the Sonos system.

I was huge into Sonos ecosystem, but recent actions with how they treated owners of earlier equipment have left me cold on it. This works forever once set, assuming you don't move the speakers. Works with any old speaker/amp combo you can output a phono/optical signal to.

its purely opinion etc, but I am just as happy with results from this system with nice pair of bookshelf speakers as I was a pair of Sonos 1s, and it will work as long as the board lasts.

I am shocked hifiberryOS hasn't found more fans, its really impressive for what it does for little money with a supported DSP. The hardest part of this is cloning an image to an SD card, rest is plug and play. You could eBay the calibration mic once done too. If you intend to move your speakers a lot this is no good of course, but my experience is people often set these things in one place in their home.

Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by rrrrrrrrrrrryan on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:31PM (#25164606)
I do have a solid calibration mic and have done this a handful of times with different speakers, but like you've said, I'm very much technically inclined and wouldn't expect the average person to be able to do it.

It's probably just a matter of time before pretty much every speaker can self-calibrate to some degree. Most mid-range bluetooth speakers already have a microphone and some basic DSP abilities, which is really all you need.

HifiberryOS is new to me and looks pretty nifty - I'll have to check it out.

Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by niklasrde on Friday November 20, 2020 @11:20AM (#25161858)
The Sonos Move has "Auto Trueplay", which is the same, and allows Bluetooth playback in a "dumb speaker" mode. Weirdly, not at the same time - Auto Trueplay is only supported in WiFi mode.
Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by ebg13 on Friday November 20, 2020 @11:46AM (#25162163)
Does Sonos still spy on people? ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24680614 )
Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by gogopuppygogo on Friday November 20, 2020 @02:59PM (#25164293)
Everything is spying on us. Privacy was traded for “free” stuff.
Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by dpkonofa on Friday November 20, 2020 @07:47PM (#25166904)
That's a weird thing to say in an article about the Homepod which very definitively does not spy on anyone who owns one.
Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by thesandlord on Friday November 20, 2020 @11:22AM (#25161877)
Google Home Max also does the auto calibration thing and also has an Aux jack and bluetooth support.
Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by throwaway894345 on Friday November 20, 2020 @11:51AM (#25162230)
OP may also care about privacy.
Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by entropea on Friday November 20, 2020 @12:40PM (#25162806)
Do you have the homepod code or are you just going by what a trillion dollar company that does plenty of shady things advertises to you?
Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by throwaway894345 on Friday November 20, 2020 @12:52PM (#25162939)
Do you the source code for the microcode running on your CPU or are you just going by the corporate advertising? :)

Obviously we have to put some trust in corporations if we're not to live a purely analog existence, and so it stands to reason that we can put a little more trust in a company whose business model is selling premium hardware (and which increasingly sees privacy as a competitive advantage) than a company whose business model is selling your personal data to advertisers.

Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by antibuddy on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:50PM (#25163552)
I agree with your sentiment that there is no absolute here; however there is a difference if the whole machine is a blackbox or just the CPU and is sold by a listed corporation that is only accountable to their shareholders.

They see privacy as a marketing advantage, however they collect data as they see fit. It is also important to note, that they are indeed in the ad business and even if it is no match to their hardware business they are profit maximizing. So even if they don't sell your data now this can change and your record on that big corp will become known to whoever pays enough.

Side question: Does Google directly sell personal data to advertisers? (For Google applies what I said above anyway)

Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by Talyen42 on Friday November 20, 2020 @01:00PM (#25163022)
apple makes 1/100th the revenue from ads that google does, so it's very clear which is abusing user data to do so
Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by Gigablah on Saturday November 21, 2020 @12:43AM (#25168056)
That’s a non sequitur.
Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by dpkonofa on Friday November 20, 2020 @07:48PM (#25166910)
You don't need the code. Just hook it up to your network and use Wireshark or something similar to see when it phones home.
Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by layer8 on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:48PM (#25164761)
Does it work without network connection? (just curious)
Re:HomePod has been jailbroken with checkra1n by thesandlord on Friday November 20, 2020 @03:52PM (#25164808)
Yup! Not 100% Bluetooth works but I can confirm AUX working without a network.