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Re:Bypassing Firewalls in macOS Big Sur by Bud on Saturday November 14, 2020 @08:11PM (#25097171)
No, that is not the most reasonable expectation. Fails both Occam's Razor and the laugh test.

To believe this, one has to believe that a $2 trillion company did this on purpose, knowing it would be revealed within hours and that it would take a major hit on the very reputation for user privacy and security that they have spent years building.

There are a lot of better explanations available than "Apple decided user security can fuck off and that clumsily collaborating with the bad guys in trivially-detectable ways was a way better plan".

Re:Bypassing Firewalls in macOS Big Sur by kypro on Saturday November 14, 2020 @08:31PM (#25097314)
Maybe you're right – I am quite a paranoid person.

I guess I just don't understand how this wasn't flagged as a concern when the feature was being worked on? How is it possible that Apple's engineering team built a backdoor like this without it raising serious security concerns? And if concerns were raised why was this not adequately pen tested prior to release?

I'm not sure what's worse from a reputational perspective... A company that prides itself on privacy but can't get something as basic as a firewall right, or a company that knows how to write secure software but occasionally puts backdoors in them for intelligence agencies?

Re:Bypassing Firewalls in macOS Big Sur by saagarjha on Sunday November 15, 2020 @01:56AM (#25098931)
I've always thought that Apple would do well to have someone on staff to give the things they make the "Hacker News" treatment.
Re:Bypassing Firewalls in macOS Big Sur by zimpenfish on Sunday November 15, 2020 @04:28AM (#25099635)
I'd posit that if that were true, they'd probably never have made it to even a $2bn company, never mind $2tn. HN is - for Apple's intents and purposes - an insignificantly tiny bunch of people they're 95% not really interested in as customers.
Re:Bypassing Firewalls in macOS Big Sur by sneak on Monday November 16, 2020 @01:47AM (#25108854)
I volunteer as tribute.
Re:Bypassing Firewalls in macOS Big Sur by Lammy on Saturday November 14, 2020 @08:55PM (#25097472)
> laugh test.

This seems a little rudely dismissive. GP's skepticism sounds totally reasonable and healthy to me.

Re:Bypassing Firewalls in macOS Big Sur by keutoi on Saturday November 14, 2020 @10:35PM (#25098008)
Given the history such paranoia might be reasonable(healthy too), but I can't assert such incompetence with a straight face.
Re:Bypassing Firewalls in macOS Big Sur by sneak on Saturday November 14, 2020 @08:15PM (#25097198)
Re:Bypassing Firewalls in macOS Big Sur by yyyk on Sunday November 15, 2020 @06:19AM (#25100264)
Ultimately, there's little difference between incompetence and malevolence when acting in this level. Incompetence might actually be slightly worse.

The malevolent act on their best interest which is often predictable and limited. The incompetent simply give away data to every random badguy under the sun.