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Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by hermitcrab on Saturday November 14, 2020 @01:15PM (#25094246)
Even the most obscure ideas have plenty of competitors (I know I write table planning software for events). If you come up with something that has no competitors, either:

-you didn't look hard enough

-you are a genius who spotted an untapped demand (very unlikely)

-no-one wants it (very likely)

Also, remember that the main competitor to a lot of software is Excel and post-it notes.

That said, the more competitors the harder it is to get noticed. Ideally pick something where you have got a reasonable chance of getting on page 1 or 2 of Google.

Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by count on Saturday November 14, 2020 @06:26PM (#25096636)
And don't count out competitors that are non-obvious, like 'excel' and 'email'.
Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by skeeter2020 on Saturday November 14, 2020 @11:03PM (#25098158)
...but definitely think about why you are better than excel and email, because they are a solution to almost every data & workflow problem. You need to move them from "good enough" to "painful compared to" your solution.
Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by etherio on Saturday November 14, 2020 @01:56PM (#25094611)
Isn't also possibled that although the idea in itself might be desirable every potential competitor who attempted to build something similar encountered a technological or administrative problem that stopped them in their tracks?
Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by LeifCarrotson on Saturday November 14, 2020 @04:57PM (#25096005)
Sure, that's conceivable, though there are three very limited ways that it can happen:

1. It's always been technically and administratively possible, you're just the first genius to overcome those hurdles. All the combined efforts of thousand developers at a FAANG found it impossible, but against all odds, you succeeded where they failed. Congratulations if that's you, but don't bet the farm on that being the result before you start.

2. Technological developments have only just now made it possible. Maybe your idea requires resource-heavy neural networks on the users' mobile phone, and current high-end models have just become capable of that. If tech has only now made it possible, you also have to be the first of millions of developers to realize that and get to market. Good luck, this is how most of the startup ecosystem has worked for a long time.

3. It's currently illegal, and you're just going to hope no one stops you. This is a big administrative problem, and maybe all the efforts of a big company couldn't change the law and make their idea work when fighting eg. the hotel or taxi lobbies, but if you side-step all that and just do it anyway, well, you might see all your hard work disappear in a courtroom, or you might succeed.

Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by tpxl on Saturday November 14, 2020 @07:19PM (#25096915)
>All the combined efforts of thousand developers at a FAANG found it impossible, but against all odds, you succeeded where they failed.

I'm working on a product where google is my competitor and the thousands of super genius engineers utterly failed to achieve what we did.

Just because the big company of the day didn't do it, doesn't mean it can't be done.

Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by Akcium on Saturday November 14, 2020 @01:18PM (#25094270)
Agree, you should keep balance here. Between something very competitive and something non-competitive at all.
Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by hermitcrab on Saturday November 14, 2020 @01:29PM (#25094365)
BTW Don't clone a successful product. Have some respect for yourself and for others. It rarely works anyway (struggling to think of a single case where it has).
Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by nlitened on Saturday November 14, 2020 @03:52PM (#25095515)
This reminds me of a funny story.

I am using a service called Invoicely for recurring invoices in my small business. One day I randomly googled for some of its features and found a post of a guy who claimed (and I believe him) that Invoicely is a blatant screen-by-screen clone of their own SaaS.

I felt really bad for that guy, and after some time I thought that it's a good idea to switch to them. The problem: their website name is so difficult to remember, I never got around to actually opening an account there.

Some shifty guys literally copied an existing service up to their Javascript and CSS, and improved it dramatically just by giving it a name I can remember.

Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by joegibbs on Sunday November 15, 2020 @12:37AM (#25098574)
Hiveage is the one you're talking about, there's a big post about everything they ripped off here: https://medium.com/@prabhaths/invoicely-a-hiveage-rip-off-b9...
Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by hajimemash on Sunday November 15, 2020 @02:22AM (#25099056)
Haha the copy-pasting part is terrible, but the name invoicely is vastly superior to a name that sounds like an allergic reaction or bees.
Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by wiremaus on Saturday November 14, 2020 @03:17PM (#25095285)
Nearly all the tech giants of today were not the the first in their niches; they just executed better.
Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by hermitcrab on Saturday November 14, 2020 @04:50PM (#25095959)
So probably not cloning (making a nearly exact copy) of another product.
Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by k__ on Saturday November 14, 2020 @01:38PM (#25094453)
Yes, what are all those people copying Ferdinand Verbiest thinking...
Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by HeyLaughingBoy on Saturday November 14, 2020 @08:30PM (#25097300)
> BTW Don't clone a successful product

You mean, like gas stations?

Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by nadermx on Saturday November 14, 2020 @01:39PM (#25094460)
vk.com?
Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by Akcium on Saturday November 14, 2020 @01:44PM (#25094495)
I guess we should not clone a product, but its okay to clone the idea.

I used vk.com a lot in the past and in terms of UI it was much more convenient for me than Facebook.

Same ideas, different implementations.

Re:Having 170 competitors in not an obstacle by hermitcrab on Saturday November 14, 2020 @01:58PM (#25094633)
Coming up with a different way to solve the same problem or using ideas from other products is cool. Nothing is truly original. We are all standing on the shoulders of giants, after all.

I'm talking about people who just rip-off someone else's design with adding anything original.