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Re:Jobseekers are being gaslighted – all being told unemploy... by lazylizard on Saturday November 14, 2020 @05:33AM (#25091406)
i look at my employer with the same adversarial eyes it does me. what is loyalty? is it in your employment contract? I'm exchanging some output my employer wants for cash. I have a problem as a 1 person business because i have only 1 customer. other people make the decision to go freelance or something and trade some of the conveniences i enjoy like not having to find new customers all the time, for other benefits like maybe its not so bad if a customer terminates their relationship. in my case i think I'm giving my customer great value and they probably don't want to change their vendor for a while. but I'm aware they can conceivably find better value elsewhere and am ready.

like. why would macdonalds be devastated that i ate at bk or kfc? its just a monetary transaction. chill.

Re:Jobseekers are being gaslighted – all being told unemploy... by djsumdog on Saturday November 14, 2020 @10:30AM (#25092843)
> what is loyalty?

I wrote an article on Loyalty a few years back while I was on an 11 month break:

https://battlepenguin.com/philosophy/society/loyalty/

I'm not very 'loyal' to jobs, often trading for adventures every once in a while. It's a double edge sword; it's easier to get hired at places that really push the edge and want really motivated people. But not having more than 3 years at a single place does make it difficult when trying to find new jobs. At the same time, I'm paid at market value, where if I stayed at one place 10 years, I'd likely be at least 1/3 under market.

Re:Jobseekers are being gaslighted – all being told unemploy... by rileymat2 on Saturday November 14, 2020 @10:24AM (#25092796)
I would tend to agree, but there is some asymmetry in the process.

An employer expects 2 week notice to provide continuity, but employees do not have that same expectation.

Obviously this is optional, but can stick with you if you need references.

Re:Jobseekers are being gaslighted – all being told unemploy... by mjbeswick on Saturday November 14, 2020 @01:07PM (#25094157)
I'm guessing that is in the US, as here in the UK no company would expect just two weeks notice!?

My current contract is pretty typical requiring a months notice either way.

Re:Jobseekers are being gaslighted – all being told unemploy... by dudul on Saturday November 14, 2020 @11:40AM (#25093377)
And an employee expects a few weeks severance when being let go. Whats the asymmetry?
Re:Jobseekers are being gaslighted – all being told unemploy... by zepto on Saturday November 14, 2020 @10:19AM (#25092758)
A cog in a machine, performing an operation.