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Re:Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed ... by think814 on Friday November 13, 2020 @12:01PM (#25084351)
What about non-drunk driving? You still have a non zero risk of killing pedestrians or other drivers/passengers.

There's risk in everything we do, including for other people. What amount of risk is acceptable is a subjective choice.

Re:Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed ... by lm28469 on Friday November 13, 2020 @12:12PM (#25084519)
Going to an event with dozens of other people during covid, especially in the current situation, is like driving on a highway full of walking people. It's not a "it might be dangerous" situation, it's a "it's definitely going to end bad" situation
Re:Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed ... by 3JPLW on Friday November 13, 2020 @12:15PM (#25084568)
This is why speed limits are prudent.

This is why masks and gathering limits are prudent.

Re:Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed ... by ntsplnkv2 on Friday November 13, 2020 @12:18PM (#25084640)
And liability is part of that - that's why auto insurance is mandatory.

There's a difference between reckless endangerment/homicide than an accident. Ridiculous false equivalency.

Re:Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed ... by timr on Friday November 13, 2020 @12:33PM (#25084910)
"There's a difference between reckless endangerment/homicide than an accident. Ridiculous false equivalency."

And yet, comparison of catching a virus to homicide by gun is not.

Re:Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed ... by ceejayoz on Friday November 13, 2020 @01:52PM (#25085938)
> And yet, comparison of catching a virus to homicide by gun is not.

That was not intended as a comparison, but as an obvious example of where "my body, my choice" clearly does not apply to making a slight movement of your index finger.

Re:Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed ... by timr on Friday November 13, 2020 @01:55PM (#25085979)
You can call it whatever you want, but you're using the analogy to make an argument, and the analogy is extreme.
Re:Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed ... by ceejayoz on Friday November 13, 2020 @02:01PM (#25086042)
The analogy is intended to demonstrate that the implied claim that "'my body, my choice' must extend to everything or it's hypocritical" is extreme.
Re:Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed ... by timr on Friday November 13, 2020 @03:33PM (#25087124)
You're arguing that this situation should be an exception to the usual rules of personal liberty that we all take for granted -- I should be able to require you to wear a mask and not meet with family members, because $disease is deadly and transmissable.

OP pointed out that this is contradictory to the usual rhetoric on abortion.

Your response was that we make just such an exception for guns and drunk driving. The implication, therefore, is that this is of such an equivalent moral imperative, that the same reactions are justified here.

You may not want to be drawing the analogy, but if you aren't, there's no point in raising the subject at all.

Re:Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed ... by ceejayoz on Friday November 13, 2020 @04:15PM (#25087596)
> OP pointed out that this is contradictory to the usual rhetoric on abortion.

I'm pointing out that it's not, just like drunk driving and moving your finger when it happens to be connected to a gun aren't "pro-choice" moments.

"My body, my choice" doesn't apply in the same fashion when other people's rights are also involved. (And, to head-off the "nuh-uh", pro-choicers tend to fall down on the "no" side of fetal personhood.)

Re:Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed ... by timr on Friday November 13, 2020 @05:02PM (#25088048)
"I'm pointing out that it's not, just like drunk driving and moving your finger when it happens to be connected to a gun aren't "pro-choice" moments."

It's nothing like either of those, let alone "just like" them.

Catching a virus is not, in any way, like pulling the trigger on gun or choosing to drink and drive. The former happens to you. The latter two require personal agency.

Re:Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed ... by ntsplnkv2 on Friday November 13, 2020 @12:38PM (#25084979)
Strawman, I never mentioned homicide by gun.
Re:Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed ... by timr on Friday November 13, 2020 @12:42PM (#25085032)
This entire subthread is in response to just such a comparison:

"Sure, just like drunk driving or twitching your trigger finger when someone just happens to be in front of the gun."

And I quoted you -- you make a comparison to homicide. Comparing catching a virus to homicide of any sort is...extreme.

Re:Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed ... by tshaddox on Friday November 13, 2020 @01:52PM (#25085945)
Firstly, that's not the same commenter. Secondly, the drunk driving and gun examples were clearly provided merely as examples where "my body, my choice" doesn't apply.
Re:Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed ... by timr on Friday November 13, 2020 @02:03PM (#25086056)
I know it's not the same commenter.

If you're going to argue that gun homicide and drunk driving are examples that should also be followed here, you are making the analogy between catching a virus and those examples.

Re:Super-spreading wedding demonstrates Covid-19 risk posed ... by tshaddox on Friday November 13, 2020 @02:13PM (#25086162)
Yes, the analogy is being made, and the scope of the analogy is clearly that "my body, my choice" does not apply to either thing.