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Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by jcranmer on Thursday November 12, 2020 @11:04PM (#25078724)
One of the main reasons it is taking so long is the volume of mail-in ballots is extremely high compared to prior elections. And on top of that, in several states, Republicans were adamant that vote tabulation not begin early to deal with this volume, with the entirely foreseeable result that counting took far longer than necessary.
Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by CountSessine on Friday November 13, 2020 @12:31AM (#25079229)
But it still doesn’t answer the question - in Canada we count all the ballots the same day BY HAND. Why is this so hard in the US?

The only thing that I can think of is that your elections staff are grossly under-allocated?

Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by jcranmer on Friday November 13, 2020 @12:41AM (#25079279)
Another possible factor is that US elections generally see far more races on the ballot. In my ballot this year, I had to vote for US President, US House, US Senate, State House, State Senate, Councillor, Register of Probate, and three referendums. That's actually a pretty light ballot; in the past, I've also had to vote for races such as County Auditor, Recorder of Deeds, County Clerk, Soil & Water Conservation District Commissioner.

It obviously takes far longer to count ballots by hand when you're dealing with a dozen races instead of one or two.

Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by cycomanic on Friday November 13, 2020 @02:31AM (#25079936)
Actually most places I'm aware of count paper ballots. Germany, Sweden, Australia all use paper ballots as far as I'm aware (unless something changed recently) and in all of the countries results are typically in during the night of the election. And many of these countries have also significant option in their votes, I mean Australia's preferential system means you have a lot of choices (if not going with the party preferences).

I think one reason for the US system to be this complex is essentially corruption, i.e. funnelling money to the makers of voting machines. The other reason is that the US system highly encourages parties to try to get votes of the other party discounted based on technicalities.

It still boggles my mind that in the US, the first modern democracy the system developed to discourage voter participation

Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by lowmagnet on Friday November 13, 2020 @08:41AM (#25082000)
My ballot had 35 positions to vote on.

I sometimes wish we had a separate federal / state / county / town vote to keep the practice up and reduce the overhead of individual voting periods.

Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by zepto on Friday November 13, 2020 @12:30PM (#25084853)
It isn’t unless you have valid mail in ballots that haven’t even arrived by Election Day.
Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by dole on Friday November 13, 2020 @12:39AM (#25079271)
17 million votes don’t take as long to count as 175 million?
Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by detaro on Friday November 13, 2020 @12:43AM (#25079290)
Why not? Larger countries have more places voting happens and more people counting. It parallelizes almost perfectly. Slow counting is almost entirely down to resource allocation.
Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by garyrichardson on Thursday November 12, 2020 @11:54PM (#25079022)
Right. That's this year. What about the last 20 years of US elections?
Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by Armisael16 on Friday November 13, 2020 @12:06AM (#25079094)
What about them?

Presumably you’re thinking of Florida in 2000, where the margin of victory was 0.0092%, and thus exceptional care in counting was merited. As far as I can recall other national elections have been timely in the last 20 years.

Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by jcranmer on Friday November 13, 2020 @12:07AM (#25079101)
In most elections, the election results are clear by the time I go to bed normally.
Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by handmodel on Friday November 13, 2020 @12:39AM (#25079260)
I'd also like a citation on the Canadian counting.

There last election wasn't particularly close and from my understanding the mathematics of someone other than Trudeau + Liberal party winning were pretty much set.

Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by chrisco255 on Friday November 13, 2020 @12:05AM (#25079086)
Republicans wanted ballots to be tabulated up front. This is completely false. The debacle of overnight ballots showing up at the 11th hour past the closing of the polls is another reason to tabulate them as they come in.