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Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by sicromoft on Thursday November 12, 2020 @10:46PM (#25078609)
Are banks auditable? (Yes.) Do they have paper backups of everything? (Not that I'm aware of.) What's the difference? Honest question.
Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by guptaneil on Thursday November 12, 2020 @10:52PM (#25078649)
The difference is that transactions at banks aren’t anonymous.

If you could only see the bank’s final balance with no insight into how much each person deposited and no cash in the vaults, the bank’s reported balance would be pretty meaningless for audit purposes.

Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by ironmagma on Thursday November 12, 2020 @11:13PM (#25078792)
How are votes anonymous? You write your name on the ballots and they have a barcode.
Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by guptaneil on Thursday November 12, 2020 @11:17PM (#25078813)
We can know _who_ voted, but not _how_ they voted. These are explicitly kept separate so that you can’t sell your vote or be persecuted for how you voted.

We might know which 10 people put money in a bank, but without transaction amounts, it still doesn’t help with the audit.

Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by josephcsible on Thursday November 12, 2020 @10:50PM (#25078637)
If your bank account balance is wrong, you can tell for sure that it's wrong and then explain it to the bank and get it fixed. If your vote was counted wrong, you'd never know. For them to be equivalent, the secret ballot would have to be abolished.
Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by pontifier on Friday November 13, 2020 @03:11AM (#25080166)
Maybe each ballot could include a one time pad that you keep to verify the vote.

You could verify your own vote but nobody else could.

It could be very simple to use, like a qr code that links to a public api showing the encoded ballot data, and a second qr code that you scan to decrypt it.

Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by ric2b on Friday November 13, 2020 @08:07AM (#25081735)
Not being able to verify who you voted for is by design, it's an important feature to prevent people from being pressured into/persecuted for voting a certain way, or selling their vote.

If there's no way to verify your specific vote you can just lie about who you voted for.

Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by pontifier on Friday November 13, 2020 @02:22PM (#25086282)
Hence why you would want to use a one time pad... It would be easy to choose a key that would show any particular vote cast any way you want. Only you would know how to verify your ballot.
Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by emerged on Friday November 13, 2020 @07:05AM (#25081387)
It's utterly insane to me that you can't even verify your vote was counted and for which candidate. But a communities of hackers defends the security of voting.
Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by ric2b on Friday November 13, 2020 @08:06AM (#25081731)
> and for which candidate

That's by design, it's an important feature to prevent people from being pressured into/persecuted for voting a certain way, or selling their vote.

If there's no way to verify your specific vote you can just lie about who you voted for.

Re:CISA: The November 3rd election was the most secure in Am... by whiteflame7000 on Thursday November 12, 2020 @10:50PM (#25078640)
People notice when you take money from them directly but seldom take notice when its taken from the community chest.