My factual numbers aren’t “bad” simply because you choose a different perspective. Notice how I am respectful of your position despite your attempts to bully me into joining some concept of unanimous consent you have contrived here. The reality is, very strong correlation of Vitamin D deficiency to hospitalization and death. But I’m not here telling you to be reasonable and dose Vitamin D to protect yourself and take responsibility for your own health.

Bottom line though, I go to work and I go home. Contact tracing the old fashioned way is 100% sufficient for me. If you want to engage risky behavior that’s on you. I have no obligation to have my every movement tracked because of your exercise of free will.

> Contact tracing the old fashioned way is 100% sufficient for me.

Errr... you said you are against "contact tracing".

I (personally) took that to mean "the old way". But it sounds like you're against the automated phone app thing?

Well, I am too. My phone isn't capable of running any of the apps anyway, so it's kind of moot in my case.

Regarding lockdown, in my state (Victoria, Australia) we're just now starting to loosen our lock down rules after a sustained (multi-month) period of lock down.

For us, it worked. We've just had our 14th day of 0 new coronavirus cases in a row, and they shouldn't be returning. :)

That was after starting into a J-curve of increasing coronavirus cases, hitting 700+ per day before the lock down started taking effect.

So, lockdowns + masks work. And if we hadn't gone down that path, we'd be heading to a dark place about now (like the US) and our economy would probably end up turning to shit. o_O

That being said, the lock down sucked.

We also had a curfew (8pm - 5am), to help manage it. Not being able to go out except for exercise or to buy food gets to a person after a few weeks. :(

The nuance of this discussion is the use of personal tracking technology as a means of contact tracing. At least that's the way I read it, starting a few layers up the comment tree.

I would have agreed with you had I not witnessed the passing and renewal of the patriot act. Back then I was in favor of it, too.

I think it’s naive to think contact tracing will ever be rolled back. I fear it will be a new permanent surveillance tool.

I would rather keep my personal liberty.

Nothing is ever rolled back. 19 years after 9/11 we're still doing the security theater dance at the airport.

How, exactly, would a contact tracing app implemented using the currently used protocols pose any threat to your privacy?

"Contact tracing" is asking people who they've been near, and then checking on them as well. It can't ever be "rolled back" any more than "asking someone a question" can be rolled back.