"On the other hand, lockdowns may lower the risk of accident, transmission of other diseases, and even the nasty effect of pollution."
On the other hand, isolation leads to depression and suicide. Less sport and fresh air, to lower health.
Re:Sweden Covid-19 Update
by misiti3780 on Thursday November 12, 2020 @04:00PM
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Where can I find the data to see excess mortality?
I use https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm for the U.S. and https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/ has a bit of european data.
Re:Sweden Covid-19 Update
by misiti3780 on Thursday November 12, 2020 @06:26PM
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thanks!
Re:Sweden Covid-19 Update
by josephcsible on Thursday November 12, 2020 @04:02PM
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> excess mortality for all causes more or less matches Covid deaths, so the numbers are roughly correct.
This doesn't follow. It just means that the number of falsely-claimed Covid deaths is roughly equal to the number of deaths caused by the lockdowns, not that either of those numbers are small.
You will never have precise statistics, however, excess mortality for all causes more or less matches Covid deaths, so the numbers are roughly correct.
Worth noting that there are indirect effects. For instance because of the overworked health system, some completely unrelated diseases may not be treated as well, causing extra deaths. On the other hand, lockdowns may lower the risk of accident, transmission of other diseases, and even the nasty effect of pollution.
But the general idea is that these deaths are real.