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Re:Angular 11 by azangru on Thursday November 12, 2020 @07:20AM (#25069023)
> Sure, it's miles away from Cycle.js

Has cycle got any real-world adoption, apart from Andre writing the Manyverse client in it?

Re:Angular 11 by k__ on Thursday November 12, 2020 @07:28AM (#25069083)
At least 24 companies are sponsoring the development, don't know how high the dark figures are.

But as I wrote in the comment before, while Cycle.js is in my eye the cleaner UI framework implementation with observables (compared to Angular) it has a very small eco-system.

Re:Angular 11 by dmitriid on Thursday November 12, 2020 @07:44AM (#25069208)
> At least 24 companies are sponsoring the development

Is there development though? It looks like since 2018 there have been only minor updates, and major projects like [1] are still just a dream.

On the other hand, "sponsoring the development" could be a strong word. Giving a few bucks every once in a while isn't really sponsorship [2]

[1] https://github.com/cyclejs/cyclejs/issues/851

[2] https://staltz.com/software-below-the-poverty-line.html

Re:Angular 11 by ethbr0 on Thursday November 12, 2020 @07:49AM (#25069246)
> very small eco-system

With comprehensive frameworks, I always think of this as the Smalltalk problem.

In real world use, aggregate framework dev-hours typically trump superior architecture. Sadly.

Re:Angular 11 by WorldMaker on Thursday November 12, 2020 @07:29PM (#25077257)
I used Cycle for a couple years, but the size of the React ecosystem made it much easier to just use React. There were prototypes of embedding React components in Cycle Apps, but more traction was made in embedding Cycle components in React apps, but by this point it rarely seems worth the effort to mix the component types together. (And with hooks eliminating whole sorts of reactivity issues with class components, I don't really miss Cycle much in React work. Though I miss Cycle a great deal when working in Angular, yikes.)