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Re:Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end... by JosephRedfern on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:35AM (#25067424)
I’d go so far as to say “laptops of late”, thermal throttling isn’t unique to MacBooks.

My XPS15 regularly throttles and sounds like it’s about to take off.

Re:Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end... by numpad0 on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:21AM (#25067678)
It was Surface that started the trend, then MacBook followed and became a feature.

By the way, “throttling” refers to CPU _slowing down_ despite cooling working at full capacity, so loud fans in itself isn’t one.

e: Another way to explain thermal throttling would be “thermal fading”, like brake fading on a car. Whether brake fading is considered a design fault or a feature that allow bursts of stronger brakes is semantic.

Re:Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end... by dave84 on Thursday November 12, 2020 @07:44AM (#25069201)
I think the Surface was late to the party, the original Macbook Air had huge problems when it launched in 2008.

https://www.theage.com.au/technology/apple-fans-burned-by-ho...

Re:Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end... by nbevans on Thursday November 12, 2020 @05:56AM (#25068570)
If we're doing analogies, let's do them right :) Therefore I'd argue it is more like supercharger overheating on a car. As a supercharger gets hotter from prolonged load it gets hot and warms the air entering the engine which reduces cold-air intake thus reducing horse power compared to a cooler supercharger. There is a way to solve this: by fitting a chargecooler - which is basically a cooling system for the supercharger.
Re:Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end... by JosephRedfern on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:59AM (#25067882)
Sorry, yes, I realise that’s what throttling is but wasn’t clear. I meant to say in the original comment the fans normally come on followed by throttling.
Re:Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end... by rbanffy on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:08AM (#25067608)
Gaming laptops are huge for a reason: they need to get rid of a lot of heat.

Thin and light is great for short bursts of activity, but, when you need sustainable heavy usage, you'll need a bigger computer, even if it's just to have a bigger heatsink.

Re:Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end... by roel_v on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:53AM (#25067843)
My XPS15's GPU runs at 100C (on benchmark loads), even after I replaced the heat pads and cooling paste. It took me weeks to get used to the idea. I guess that's just the new normal. I don't find mine to be loud though.