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Re:RIP Google Music by OscarTheGrinch on Thursday November 12, 2020 @01:25AM (#25067052)
I keep anything remotely rare as mp3s.

Streaming services are prone to sudden acts of mass extinction such as: api changes, licensing snafus, unprofitability of business model, Yoko Ono being in a huff that day.

My only problem is backups, and storage is pretty cheap, much cheaper than vinyl. On a new build I install foobar2000, copy a few gigs of music to local and I'm good to go.

Call me a dinosaur, but I like own a copy of something. It's a less disposable relationship with the music.

Re:RIP Google Music by dleslie on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:37AM (#25067433)
I still buy CDs; my primary sources of new music are Bandcamp and CDs. Books in print or DRM-free ebook; and I buy BluRay and DVD movies, too.

I've experienced numerous beloved shows come and go from Netflix, some which I have no idea where to stream. That behaviour is fine for when I'm effectively channel surfing, but when I have a specific experience in mind it's garbage.

I don't trust buying DRM-laden content from most retailers because of the stories of accounts being locked or purchases being removed.

And then there's that I spend enough time traveling in poor-cellular regions...

I swear, DRM'd streaming just simply isn't suitable for _cherished_ experiences.

Re:RIP Google Music by dehrmann on Thursday November 12, 2020 @01:02PM (#25072645)
It's worth noting that as much as we say CDs are "dead," the new Xbox and Playstation can still play CDs and DVDs, and Bluray drives for computers are still being made.
Re:RIP Google Music by dleslie on Thursday November 12, 2020 @06:08PM (#25076519)
I bought a USB3 drive bay enclosure just so I could put a BluRay burner into it and use it on any machine with USB3. Super-handy; I can point MakeMKV at a recent purchase and within an hour or two have a bluray rip ready to play wherever I wish.
Re:RIP Google Music by Moru on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:28AM (#25067382)
Oh, and if it's local, search is instant, playback is instant, internet connectivity does not matter, no surprice updates, it just works. My player is Winamp and it still works just fine after all these years.

If someone want's to talk to me I just press ctrl+shift+E to pause, don't need to find a window on the computer. Tired of the song playing? Press ctrl+shift+b for next song in whatever program/game I'm in at the moment. (My winamp has quake-controls because that was what I was playing when I found the global hotkey settings.

Re:RIP Google Music by WalterBright on Thursday November 12, 2020 @05:04AM (#25068285)
> internet connectivity does not matter

I load my tunes on a USB stick and play them in the car. Never worry about connectivity, outages, or data plans. And it remembers where it left off when I turn the key on again.

I tried playing my phone through the AUX port, but nobody has yet made a mini audio jack that has a solid connection (always gotta wiggle it or turn it, like a cheap potenciometer).

Re:RIP Google Music by Moru on Thursday November 12, 2020 @05:39AM (#25068489)
Get a new cable, can also try headset type cable with converter. Sometimes they're not the right size and then you get connection problems.
Re:RIP Google Music by gorgoiler on Thursday November 12, 2020 @01:43AM (#25067140)
And my least favorite: surprise remastering. When you’ve listened to Rumors enough, anything but the original feels deeply uncomfortable.
Re:RIP Google Music by jeffbee on Thursday November 12, 2020 @01:49AM (#25067170)
For real, was just discussing this earlier today. Rumours is a masterpiece and all the later remasters are worse and worse. When you stream it, it's remaster roulette.
Re:RIP Google Music by gorgoiler on Thursday November 12, 2020 @04:01PM (#25074985)
Hah, apparently I remastered the spelling!
Re:RIP Google Music by OscarTheGrinch on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:32AM (#25067409)
Yeah, remasters, no thanks.

Bowie apparently hated how Lets Dance (the song) turned out, I had a remastered album where it was replaced with some dire 1990's techno version.

And let's not forget probably the most common streaming flaw: internet outages.

Re:RIP Google Music by PikachuEXE on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:35AM (#25067422)
Not just music, games too

Which is why I like GOG

Re:RIP Google Music by dleslie on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:39AM (#25067447)
And software!

It's a drag to open Steam, or other, and find a game has stopped working because it can't auth with non-steam DRM, or a recent update has broken or removed features and the developer has abandoned the product.

Re:RIP Google Music by vertis on Thursday November 12, 2020 @11:45AM (#25071650)
I used to keep a lot of movies on a HD, most that I'd ripped myself from legally acquired DVDs. At a certain point I decided to write a list of those movies, shove it in a document on Dropbox and delete the files, freeing up about 2TB.

There were only a couple of exceptions. Very very old movies that I thought I might have trouble sourcing again if I ever wanted to watch them.

I was carrying those movies around for no particularly good reason. I wasn't likely to watch them again, and if I did there was a pretty good chance that they were already on X streaming service.

Re:RIP Google Music by WalterBright on Thursday November 12, 2020 @04:59AM (#25068260)
> Yoko Ono being in a huff that day.

Yoko Ono's CDs are a guilty pleasure of mine. They're oddly captivating in their awfulness.

Re:RIP Google Music by rwmj on Thursday November 12, 2020 @05:03AM (#25068280)
Sounds like you'll appreciate Nico's solo career :-)
Re:RIP Google Music by ogou on Thursday November 12, 2020 @06:05AM (#25068610)
Nico’s solo work spawned a range of goth music from Siouxsie and the Banshees to Sisters of Mercy. Still heard in acts like Chelsea Wolfe and ADULt. No doubt it’s dour and atonal but it was distinctive.
Re:RIP Google Music by rwmj on Thursday November 12, 2020 @10:27AM (#25070853)
Oh I have a couple of her solo records. No problem from me, but is a bit weird.
Re:RIP Google Music by mrtksn on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:29AM (#25067392)
Music is tightly coupled with culture and culture is coupled with the tech. When something vanishes, most of the time it is because no one cares about it anymore because everyone moved on to the next thing. Some people remain of course, they get lonelier in this quest and if it happens that they have some artistic abilities they can play part in the re-discovery of the brilliance of the art of that era in the next retro wave.

Most of the time though, the people who don't move on simply age and get grumpy claiming that kids these days are horrible and don't understand the value of the thing that they still love.

Re:RIP Google Music by dleslie on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:41AM (#25067460)
Most of the time it's because the license has expired and the licensee doesn't think its worthwhile to renew.

That doesn't mean no one cares about it; it means that the licensee doesn't see profit in renewing it.

They know that most users will keep their subscription active despite the lost content.

Re:RIP Google Music by mrtksn on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:56AM (#25067545)
Which is exactly the same as no one cares as it's cultural prime-time passes. There's not much money in serving the stuff that no one wants anymore, thus no profit, which leads to license termination.
Re:RIP Google Music by dleslie on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:01AM (#25067573)
That's absurd. How it arrives at a point of inaccessibility informs the culture: a book long out of print has a different impact than a banned book.
Re:RIP Google Music by mrtksn on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:12AM (#25067629)
It's not banned, simply it's out of stock. The same as not being able to find Nirvana CD's because kids moved on listening to Eminem on Winamp by downloading mp3 on eMule.

And "It really whips the Llama's ass" means nothing to the kids these days.

Re:RIP Google Music by dleslie on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:22AM (#25067682)
It's not just out of stock, it's unavailable. I can buy long out of print books from a used book store; I cannot buy delisted and vaulted digital content.

Nirvana CDs are trivial to find; hell, if you're looking for virtually any music older than ten years it's going to be on physical media; but most of it isn't digitized.

And the new stuff? Bandcamp is great, and I get to keep the mp3s.

Re:RIP Google Music by mrtksn on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:27AM (#25067709)
The few who care will make a copy, you can make your own copy or take it from those who do. No DRM is stopping you from taking pictures or make recordings.

Even if ıt was the case that vanishes from the surface of earth, it's not that different from last physical copy getting scratched.

Re:RIP Google Music by dleslie on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:31AM (#25067724)
Of course it's different; the path to unavailability describes the society that made it unavailable.
Re:RIP Google Music by mrtksn on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:45AM (#25067786)
Not at all, CD's also vanish exactly the same way. At some point it is no longer profitable to print those, no longer profitable to keep those in the shelves, no longer profitable to have them in the storage and they vanish.

Those who have them begin using them as frisbees, decoration or simply trash them.

Re:RIP Google Music by dleslie on Thursday November 12, 2020 @10:24AM (#25070824)
The CDs weren't ripped from active listener's libraries and made unavailable by an uncaring corporation; they deteriorated with time and use.

When I bought that Nirvana CD I bought it for life, and no one has the right to revoke my ability to listen to it.

There is a difference.

Re:RIP Google Music by matkoniecz on Thursday November 12, 2020 @04:05AM (#25067915)
"cultural prime-time passes" is not the same as "no one cares about it anymore"

99% of my music never was in a cultural prime-time

Re:RIP Google Music by mrtksn on Thursday November 12, 2020 @04:28AM (#25068073)
Cultural prime-time doesn't mean beach music top list. There are many subcultures and they have their own prime-time music that people outside of that group never heard of.

And people who happen to enjoy music that was truly never prime-time should thank the parents of the musicians who sponsored the free music creation. It wasn't tech or platforms that enabled it, it was VC/Angel investor money and will vanish as soon as the money dries out.

Re:RIP Google Music by matkoniecz on Friday November 13, 2020 @01:39AM (#25079639)
"It wasn't tech or platforms that enabled it, it was VC/Angel investor money"

For plenty of music that I listed to neither was in play (for example https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piosenka_turystyczna )

Re:RIP Google Music by matkoniecz on Thursday November 12, 2020 @04:03AM (#25067901)
"When something vanishes, most of the time it is because no one cares about it anymore"

Plenty of music that I listen to is not available at all on Spotify. Some of entries will never be there (for example, I have some private recordings of music done with my family).

Some cases are not economically viable to be published, but it is not the same as "no one cares about it".