Re:Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end...
by distances on Thursday November 12, 2020 @01:14AM
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That price is a meaningless comparison, you can't buy the Apple processor in retail. What's the cost to procedure the AMD part? Something similar I'd guess.
Re:Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end...
by valuearb on Thursday November 12, 2020 @01:28AM
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AMD on it’s current hot steak has gotten its gross profit margins to 43%, which would make the cost to manufacture a $300 part around $171.
Two and a half times higher cost to build a slower, more power hungry CPU is not actually very similar.
Re:Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end...
by mahkeiro on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:02AM
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Yeah using the gross margin of the whole company and applying it to a single product is going to provide a reliable figure...
Re:Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end...
by valuearb on Thursday November 12, 2020 @12:47PM
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It’s how companies price their products. Is it perfect? No, but that’s why I used the word “around”.
You can argue that this particular Ryzen has a higher gross margin, say 50%, and lower ASP than $300, but that only gets your cost down to what, $140? And with RAM costing extra.
Re:Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end...
by dannyw on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:30AM
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how much of the $300 goes to the retailer? how much goes to the distributor?
Re:Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end...
by ant6n on Thursday November 12, 2020 @03:48AM
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How much goes to R&D?
Re:Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end...
by btgeekboy on Thursday November 12, 2020 @02:38AM
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Not to mention I believe the RAM is included on the M1 SOC.
Re:Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end...
by olnluis on Thursday November 12, 2020 @12:26AM
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Unlikely OEM's are paying 300+ for a 4800u.
Certainly more than $65, though.
Re:Apple Silicon M1 chip in MacBook Air outperforms high-end...
by buran77 on Thursday November 12, 2020 @05:53AM
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That makes sense, AMD is selling to OEMs for a profit (over cost) while Apple is its own OEM, if any charging is done it's purely internal and for accounting purposes.
This comparison looks at different segments of the fab<>manufacturer<>OEM relationship. Add the user in there and you might say that you can buy an AMD CPU for $100 but an Apple CPU will cost you $1000. Not very meaningful as a comparison.
And it’s 45% slower in single core.
Most importantly, the M1 is estimated to cost Apple $65, the 4800u is a $300+ part.