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Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by jgalt212 on Thursday November 05, 2020 @11:23AM (#24999508)
Bitcoin and Fed Balance Sheet are pretty well correlated.
Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by microtherion on Thursday November 05, 2020 @12:03PM (#24999840)
If by "pretty well" you mean "not at all"...

https://ibb.co/z7vgwSd https://ibb.co/Zhqzdxk

Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by rmrfstar on Thursday November 05, 2020 @12:08PM (#24999871)
To my eye, it looks like there is a plausible argument that BTC price innovations have a positive loading on Fed balance sheet growth.

Can you link raw data?

At this point, the marginal buyer is a leveraged investment firm. So, the hypothesis is not a crazy one.

Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by microtherion on Thursday November 05, 2020 @12:09PM (#24999883)
I'm afraid I don't have the raw data.
Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by rmrfstar on Thursday November 05, 2020 @07:17PM (#25003576)
Both are FRED series (CBBTCUSD and WALCL). Rolling one year correlations of one week deltas:

    0.3 +-+----+------+------+------+------+-----+------+------+------+----+-+   
          +      +      +      +      +      A     +      +      +      +      +   
          |                                 A                            AA    |   
      0.2 +-+                                 AA                        AAAAAAA+   
          |                         AAA  AA AAA                        AA      |   
      0.1 +-+                   AAAAA AA  AA    A                     A      +-+   
          |                   AAAAA   AAA         A                  AA        |   
          |                    AA                A                             |   
        0 +-+                 A                 AA AA AAA                    +-+   
          |                                      A   AA A                      |   
          |  A                                      AA   AAA        A          |   
     -0.1 +A+       AAA     AA                             A        A        +-+   
          |AAA      A  AAAAA                               AAAA                |   
          |A  A           A                                                    |   
     -0.2 A-+ AAAAA        A                                  AAA AA         +-+   
          A     AA AA                                          AAAAA           |   
     -0.3 +-+     AA                                                         +-+   
          |                                                         A          |   
          +      +      +      +      +      +     +      +      +      +      +   
     -0.4 +-+----+------+------+------+------+-----+------+------+------+----+-+   
          2017/1/1                      2018/11/25                     2020/10/11
Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by microtherion on Thursday November 05, 2020 @08:47PM (#25004072)
So ELI5 what I am seeing here. Aren't those correlations all over the place?
Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by rmrfstar on Thursday November 05, 2020 @11:14PM (#25004833)
Yup, that's my takeaway. You see the same thing when you use future Fed moves as well (which is one way of checking that this graph isn't missing out on some announcement effect, as assets lag announcements).
Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by throwaway-sf on Thursday November 05, 2020 @11:41AM (#24999646)
It's the anticipation of more monetary action...the Fed Balance Sheet peaked in June but yes has been rising slowly lately.

Assets have been rallying across the board after Biden looked like he was going to win. The theory is that because it appears the Republicans will still hold on to the Senate, the government will effectively be gridlocked and the Fed will have no choice but to increase asset buying in absence of big fiscal stimulus.

You can see that in rates crashing Tuesday/Wednesday after rising in anticipation of a "Blue Wave" that never happened and risk assets increasing across the board.

Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by iso8859-1 on Thursday November 05, 2020 @11:34AM (#24999590)
What's the Pearson correlation coefficient?
Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by paulpauper on Thursday November 05, 2020 @12:05PM (#24999852)
so two things that have gone up are corrected. fantastic insight.
Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by conanbatt on Thursday November 05, 2020 @11:38AM (#24999626)
I think that's what bitcoin maximalists want to believe, but surely not true.
Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by throwaway-sf on Thursday November 05, 2020 @11:50AM (#24999725)
The total market cap of all crypto assets is less than the market cap of Tesla right now.

If they are remotely right that bitcoin is a liquid inflation protected asset then the demand for such an asset should increase in a world of more and more QE from central banks.

Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by conanbatt on Thursday November 05, 2020 @10:34PM (#25004614)
The value of money is not linear compared to its quantity. I remember the calls for high inflation in 2009 with the banks bailout, but it didn't happen.
Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by akvadrako on Thursday November 05, 2020 @12:38PM (#25000157)
Don't pretend people know what bitcoin maximalist means.
Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by johndevor on Thursday November 05, 2020 @11:43AM (#24999664)
Bitcoin maximalists have been right about quite a bit the past few years...
Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by dylkil on Thursday November 05, 2020 @11:50AM (#24999722)
except the most important thing, how to scale bitcoin.
Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by sunshinerag on Thursday November 05, 2020 @12:15PM (#24999931)
Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by dylkil on Thursday November 05, 2020 @03:53PM (#25001841)
vaporware
Re:Bitcoin has surpassed $15k for the first time since Janua... by sunshinerag on Monday November 09, 2020 @01:22PM (#25037826)
? Did you try downloading and using the wallets. It exists. You are misinformed.