Re:The Remains of the US Airmail Beacon System
by saberdancer on Sunday November 01, 2020 @03:09PM
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I'd argue that exploration is not exploration if it is not documented or widely known. If Columbo discovered America but died in the process and didn't report about it, would he have same significance?
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Re:The Remains of the US Airmail Beacon System
by therein on Sunday November 01, 2020 @03:29PM
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> exploration is not exploration if it is not documented or widely known
I'm sure Native Americans had documented their land and made it widely known within their society at the time.
Re:The Remains of the US Airmail Beacon System
by notankies on Sunday November 01, 2020 @04:35PM
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How would they document it? In North America no tribe had writing until after encounters with Europeans. They only had oral tradition, which is helpful for preserving myth and little else.
Re:The Remains of the US Airmail Beacon System
by jcrawfordor on Sunday November 01, 2020 @04:51PM
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The history of ancient roads, ceremonial centers, seasonal migrations, and trading along fixed routes by various indigenous peoples would seem to suggest that they had some way of preserving information about the geography. I'm very skeptical that oral tradition is incapable of conveying the lay of the land, in fact, that seems to have been a major function of some of the oral tradition (which describes where other groups of people are found in geographical terms, for example).
Re:The Remains of the US Airmail Beacon System
by notankies on Sunday November 01, 2020 @05:39PM
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It's incapable of conveying anything if the civilization is lost. Maybe the mound builders had an incredible understanding of the land, maybe they didn't, but we can't say they documented it, at least not in any way that's transferable to the future or discoverable by a foreign culture.
Maybe I'm moving the goal posts and I'm not trying to do that, so I'll leave the immediate topic there.