Re:Public static final int EM_NATION_TYPE_UYGUR = 1;
by gregoriol on Sunday November 01, 2020 @02:04PM
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In China programmers probably can't refuse without very huge consequences for them and their own families.
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Re:Public static final int EM_NATION_TYPE_UYGUR = 1;
by strogonoff on Sunday November 01, 2020 @02:59PM
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There was another time, not long ago, when people justified doing or facilitating vile things against masses of fellow humans as “just following orders”.
Their point is valid—refusing might cost own life, and there's the prisoner's dilemma, etc. A situation like that seems unlikely to be resolved from within a system itself.
However, appeals to consequences aside, in the end each of us has a choice: write that code (slash architect that solution) or not.
Re:Public static final int EM_NATION_TYPE_UYGUR = 1;
by floatingatoll on Sunday November 01, 2020 @05:51PM
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There are a lot of people who have never faced the decision “Do I stand up for what’s right when it means my family will be murdered?”. While you’re clearly familiar with another scenario where that happened, others aren’t, and so the parent comment may help them realize that.
Re:Public static final int EM_NATION_TYPE_UYGUR = 1;
by strogonoff on Sunday November 01, 2020 @06:44PM
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We don’t have evidence that the latter engineer was actually facing a choice between implementing the feature and non-figuratively sacrificing their and their family’s life. Unlike the 70+ year old precedent I was alluding to, for a talented software engineer of non-Uyghur descent in competitive modern China forever robbing yourself and everyone from your family of the opportunity to advance up the party hierarchy may well qualify as “very huge consequences”—meanwhile, what the feature in question facilitates may well qualify as a crime under international law.
Re:Public static final int EM_NATION_TYPE_UYGUR = 1;
by fileeditview on Sunday November 01, 2020 @03:35PM
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Everyone may have the choice but for some it's easier to say no than for others..
Re:Public static final int EM_NATION_TYPE_UYGUR = 1;
by strogonoff on Sunday November 01, 2020 @03:44PM
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Since it’s posted here on HN, I believe this is primarily addressed to those whom saying “no” would cost maybe a promotion, a customer, or even just impaired relationship with a manager.
Having to choose between your family and thousands of others is tragic and I can’t honestly claim which I’d choose, but being blind to that choice (intentionally or not) is probably even more tragic.