Lobe.ai – A simple tool for training machine learning models

Re:Lobe.ai – A simple tool for training machine learning models by candiodari on Friday October 30, 2020 @05:39PM (#24947132)

How is the failure mode different from a human’s? The human mind comes with an answer no matter the situation it’s presented with, and that may be a stupid answer.

There is thankfully no (known) input that makes the human mind fail. There are known inputs for some animals though (like chickens).

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Re:Lobe.ai – A simple tool for training machine learning models by sbierwagen on Friday October 30, 2020 @07:23PM (#24947793)

https://twitter.com/dmimno/status/949302857651671040?lang=en

>Optimist: AI has achieved human-level performance!

>Realist: “AI” is a collection of brittle hacks that, under very specific circumstances, mimic the surface appearance of intelligence.

>Pessimist: AI has achieved human-level performance.

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Re:Lobe.ai – A simple tool for training machine learning models by Cybiote on Friday October 30, 2020 @06:12PM (#24947360)

Though humans do often confabulate, they can also say, "I don't know", "what is that", "wait a minute", "there's something fishy about this", "huh?". Sometimes they can invent a new label or phrase on the spot that captures component attributes.

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Re:Lobe.ai – A simple tool for training machine learning models by candiodari on Saturday October 31, 2020 @12:52PM (#24952961)

That would be a response, wouldn't it? If you give an AI "a way out", which is essentially the same, it will take a way out when it thinks it the smartest thing to do.

The trick is to lower the punishment for taking the way out. It's not free, but saying a car is a dog gets you -1, where as seeing a car and saying I don't know, only gets you a -.1 punishment (or even a .1 reward, vs a 1 reward for a correct answer).

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Re:Lobe.ai – A simple tool for training machine learning models by yawnxyz on Saturday October 31, 2020 @09:09AM (#24951139)

Or conservatives just feign knowledge/expertise. It would be funny if someone made a joke version that would confidently misclassify everything

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Re:Lobe.ai – A simple tool for training machine learning models by datameta on Friday October 30, 2020 @05:48PM (#24947198)

I'm curious about the chickens. Is this maybe in the same genre of how a shark becomes entranced if flipped upside down?

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Re:Lobe.ai – A simple tool for training machine learning models by candiodari on Saturday October 31, 2020 @06:44AM (#24950365)

It's similar, yes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Yo2UkL-n_Q

Pretty inconvenient, with chickens apparently this sometimes happens by accident. They don't get up, ever. They lie there until they get attacked or just die.

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Re:Lobe.ai – A simple tool for training machine learning models by datameta on Saturday October 31, 2020 @09:29PM (#24956597)

Fascinating... That must be a "drop dead" self-defense mechanism triggered by what looks to it like its beak drawing a line in the dirt due to it being dragged away by a predator.

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