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Re:Billy Mitchell’s Donkey Kong high-score case will move fo... by jyriand on Friday October 30, 2020 @09:29AM (#24941976)
I hope this will lead into part two of "King of Kong" documentary. One of the best documentaries I have seen in a long-long time.
Re:Billy Mitchell’s Donkey Kong high-score case will move fo... by BeetleB on Friday October 30, 2020 @01:33PM (#24944741)
Actually, King of Kong is my go-to example on why one should not trust documentaries[1]. There was so much deception by the filmmakers it is unreal. Some from memory:

They painted Steve as this upstart who came out of nowhere who was going to dethrone Billy's score. In reality, Steve was well known in the community, and had been on the stage with Billy Mitchell some years prior. He had set the record in the past, and when he was setting out for a new record in the documentary, he was trying to beat his own record, not Billy's. Yes - at the time, the record was actually held by Steve. When Billy got his (new) record invalidated, it wasn't so that he could be on the top again - the record simply reverted to Steve's prior record.

When Steve ate at Billy's restaurant, they made it seem like Billy avoided him. In fact, Billy did come out and meet Steve. They'd interacted in a friendly way multiple times over the years.

When Steve took part in a competition, and everyone seemed upset that Billy didn't show up, they made Billy look like a real jerk. His defense (not in the documentary) was that the invitation to compete came out of the blue with very short notice, and he needs time to practice/train, so he declined.

You can see Twin Galaxy's statements on the King of Kong here: https://www.twingalaxies.com/forumdisplay.php/406-The-King-o...

[1] You need to be a bit of a subject matter expert to gauge the accuracy of a documentary. And if you already know the subject that well, the documentary isn't going to teach you much.

Re:Billy Mitchell’s Donkey Kong high-score case will move fo... by gentleman11 on Friday October 30, 2020 @01:39PM (#24944810)
That’s a bit horrifying to be honest. King of Kong was my favourite documentary ever until 5 minutes ago. I feel so dirty now
Re:Billy Mitchell’s Donkey Kong high-score case will move fo... by BeetleB on Friday October 30, 2020 @01:46PM (#24944882)
That's usually the response I get from people when I point this out. It really is a fantastic documentary as far as production and storytelling goes. I felt the same when I watched it.

And then everything crashed when I looked up the details. It went from "awesome" to "Man, how evil were those filmmakers?"

My apologies.

Re:Billy Mitchell’s Donkey Kong high-score case will move fo... by dimator on Friday October 30, 2020 @11:08PM (#24948849)
I wouldn't be surprised if most documentaries are similarly inaccurate. The filmmakers want to tell a story, and good stories are never completely neutral retellings.
Re:Billy Mitchell’s Donkey Kong high-score case will move fo... by jyriand on Friday October 30, 2020 @03:12PM (#24945761)
Some stories are too good to be true I guess. To bad. I'm always wondering how do the directors always find the right guy in the right time just before something is going to happen. I suppose it's just a trick with mixing up the timeline and presenting things in different order.
Re:Billy Mitchell’s Donkey Kong high-score case will move fo... by ebiester on Friday October 30, 2020 @09:42AM (#24942078)
Depending on if you are more interested in the speedrunning or the characters, Summoning Salt has put together a compelling set of videos about the history of various speedrunning records on YouTube.
Re:Billy Mitchell’s Donkey Kong high-score case will move fo... by winphone1974 on Friday October 30, 2020 @09:46AM (#24942113)
The games & records are the premise; the people and personalities were the movie IMO
Re:Billy Mitchell’s Donkey Kong high-score case will move fo... by kyleashipley on Friday October 30, 2020 @09:54AM (#24942187)
+1 for Summoning Salt. I especially liked his Mario Kart Wii video, where he explains the mechanics of the lap counting system in detail.
Re:Billy Mitchell’s Donkey Kong high-score case will move fo... by cabaalis on Friday October 30, 2020 @09:57AM (#24942217)
Consider "Ecstasy of Order" about Tetris, and a group of people who play it and have a tournament. It belongs in a top slot also.
Re:Billy Mitchell’s Donkey Kong high-score case will move fo... by jccalhoun on Friday October 30, 2020 @01:54PM (#24944980)
Ecstasy of Order is really great. After watching King of Kong I expected it to have a similar villain and was happy with how it turned out.
Re:Billy Mitchell’s Donkey Kong high-score case will move fo... by tootie on Friday October 30, 2020 @10:52AM (#24942835)
That doc took some criticism for distorting a few elements. They played fast and loose with the timeline, omitted a few details and insinuated some things happened that didn't. The main thrust of the story was still accurate, but they played up a few things for drama that weren't that dramatic in real life.
Re:Billy Mitchell’s Donkey Kong high-score case will move fo... by jccalhoun on Friday October 30, 2020 @01:41PM (#24944828)
The documentary Chasing Ghosts: Beyond the Arcade is a nice companion piece to King of Kong. It has interviews with a lot of the same people.
Re:Billy Mitchell’s Donkey Kong high-score case will move fo... by nxpnsv on Friday October 30, 2020 @12:13PM (#24943744)
Ha, I made a track for a chip tune jukebox on the DVD menu, then they didn't even send me a copy so I never saw it. Perhaps I should see it...