This story has been completely debunked. I welcome real facts suggesting otherwise, but there truly aren’t any. This story is not being cut because of Evil Democrat Socialites. It’s cut because it truly, really, actually is debunked by well-regarded professional journalists at many other trusted outlets.

Greenwald has spent the last four years on a bizarre war path against the Democratic establishment. This is just more of the same.

The standing claim is that Hunter Biden’s emails do affirmatively show Joe Biden’s involvement in questionable or illegal activity.

The emails do not show that. This has been established by all major news outlets, even Fox News.

Therefore it is debunked.

Now, some totally separate other evidence may show something different. That is irrelevant. The claim is about what these emails affirmatively prove or corroborate. If someone were to say these emails suggest impropriety by Joe Biden, that claim is totally debunked.

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The "story" (at least that I am referring to) is that Hunter Biden had these emails and they were released. Is your claim that the emails were forgeries? If not, the NYPost story had relevant, true, information of public interest.

If you're discussing the broader context of the Ukraine prosecutor firing, I agree that there is strong evidence that Biden was not pushing for his firing in response to circumstantial evidence of pressure from his son or anything. Not, to me, strong enough to consider the claim "completely debunked."

It has been completely debunked - the emails do not contain any suggestion, evidence or information that in any way implicates Joe Biden in activity that even might have impropriety, let alone actual impropriety.

Nobody’s saying the emails don’t exist. They appear to have been up for sale in Ukraine for at least a year, suggesting that the Giuliani “found it in Delaware” story is possibly a lie, but the emails exist nonetheless.

Their content has no bearing or connection to Joe Biden. Drawing that line would be deliberate misinformation purely for election destabilization.

The emails mention his father, a meeting, etc. There's obviously some connection, but claiming that the emails are referencing a meeting with Joe is not "deliberate misinformation."

I'm sorry, but it's just pretty clear that your threshold for what constitutes a "debunking" is much lower than mine.

It's a stupid reason to not vote for Biden anyways, but I think it is better to be honest.

Every credible journalist would laugh you out of the room if you try to frame that as if it’s legitimate in any way or counts as evidence of anything besides Hunter Biden having a big mouth.

Just as they are shutting down even Greenwald if he is going to try to pull that same disingenuous crap just to keep pushing his crusade against the Democratic party leaders.

My parents are both retired journalists in DC, one a former editor-in-chief of a publication with millions of paid subscriptions. Both voted for Biden.

They have also expressed their concern with the response to the Hunter Biden story, but I won't name them for obvious reasons.

I understand that you have a vested interest in presenting this as open-and-shut, but in no way are you speaking for "every credible journalist" unless you mean in a tautological no-true-scotsman way.

And I mean this absolutely sincerely, from the POV of open journalism, high priority for inquiry into our democratic process, freedom of the press.

The way the Hunter Biden email story has morphed into basically a manipulative, disinformation campaign to overwhelm citizens and undercut basic trust in journalistic integrity and election procedures is staggering and frightening - as this anecdote about your parents being swindled by it highlights.

It could be a no true scotsman issue on my part, or it could be that really, actually the story is completely debunked and belief in it indicates departure from credible journalism to instead embrace partisan conspiracy theories.

The evidence really, actually suggests the latter in this case.

The existence of the emails is not disinformation, nor has it been discredited. You're attaching all of these claims to what "the story" is and using it to make extremely condescending remarks about reputable journalists (and my parents).

Good day, can't wait for after Nov. 3rd for people to return to normal.

Don't worry, I am well aware that there are quite a few right-wingers here.