Re:Keep the nuclear launch codes in an innocent volunteer's ...
by cambinoda on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @06:30AM
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> So the President would never have to bloody his or her hands
You missed the point. The whole argument is that if POTUS had to kill someone, they wouldn’t make the decision to kill many others. “The winning move is not to play,” as Joshua said in War Games (1983). They wouldn’t actually put the president in the situation, it’s just a sanity check thought experiment. Nukes are expensive posturing- the big stick to hold as you speak softly.
Re:Keep the nuclear launch codes in an innocent volunteer's ...
by YeGoblynQueenne on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @11:23AM
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I understand that. But if the POTUS could order someone to do the dirty job for them, then they wouldn't actually have to think about it, so they'd remain removed from the reality of killing someone (or a few million people). So the POTUS doesn't have to play or not play- they are immune to this kind of morality experiment. It's like trying to second-guess god (a non-existent entity). What have we learned from the exercise?
Re:Keep the nuclear launch codes in an innocent volunteer's ...
by majewsky on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @11:47AM
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The difference is that the volunteer would be someone walking around with them all the time, so if POTUS wants it or not, they would eventually get to know each other at least a bit, which makes a killing decision more personal (even if not executed by POTUS themselves).
Re:Keep the nuclear launch codes in an innocent volunteer's ...
by cambinoda on Sunday November 01, 2020 @10:32AM
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Assuming god isn’t real is an assumption. Metaphysical assumptions aside, I’ve learned that you argue, and that you’ve not learned much from this.
Re:Keep the nuclear launch codes in an innocent volunteer's ...
by stuaxo on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @06:49AM
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I guess they weren't thinking of the current president.
Re:Keep the nuclear launch codes in an innocent volunteer's ...
by ada1981 on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @06:34AM
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Excellent reference.
Re:Keep the nuclear launch codes in an innocent volunteer's ...
by dnautics on Wednesday October 28, 2020 @06:38AM
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> can anyone be said to hold such power legitimately, when they have only been given this power by a small minority of the entire population that is potentially affected by the decision
Can anyone be said to hold the power to murder millions if not billions legitimately, even if they were selected by a democratic vote?
But I suppose it's an interesting reflection on the moral implications of granting one person enough power to destroy the entire world.
I'd rather wonder though - can anyone be said to hold such power legitimately, when they have only been given this power by a small minority of the entire population that is potentially affected by the decision (i.e. the US citizens, as opposed to the whole of humanity)?