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Re:Chess’s Cheating Crisis by vokep on Monday October 19, 2020 @02:08PM (#24829057)
How are protein shakes and such 'stuff' at all approaching performance enhancing chemicals? Performance enhancing chemicals make the body do things it wouldn't normally do, directly modifying behavior to be different than it could be without that substance. Protein shakes are just providing nutrients so the body can make full use of exercise. Giving the body a nutrient rich liquid food is very different from a drug.

The one that seems a bit borderline but perhaps small enough effect and also already so commonly used by the general population anyways that its not too reasonable to consider it to be "doping" which would be caffeine.

Re:Chess’s Cheating Crisis by strbean on Monday October 19, 2020 @02:24PM (#24829257)
First it is protein shakes. Then creatine and other supplements. Then pre-workout stuff. Then the better pre-workout stuff someone at the gym recommended. Then you find out that pre-workout stuff was banned by the FDA for containing amphetamine analogues. Whoops, you were cheating!
Re:Chess’s Cheating Crisis by thatguy0900 on Monday October 19, 2020 @04:53PM (#24830891)
For anyone who thinks this is exaggerating they even sell "research product- not for human consumption" fda banned stuff at Walmart https://www.walmart.com/ip/Magnitude-Life-Sciences-Dark-Ener...
Re:Chess’s Cheating Crisis by SamReidHughes on Tuesday October 20, 2020 @12:38AM (#24833972)
A good example is the "Deer Antler Extract" that Vijay Singh took. It sounds like something akin to Fish Oil. Imagine if Fish Oil from CVS were banned. For all I know, it could be.
Re:Chess’s Cheating Crisis by Yizahi on Monday October 19, 2020 @02:43PM (#24829487)
You do realize that transfusion of your own blood, even with zero 3rd party chemicals, is also doping? But it only provides nutrients too, or to be more precise concentrated result of those nutrients.
Re:Chess’s Cheating Crisis by mlavin on Monday October 19, 2020 @03:29PM (#24829951)
Blood doping increases red blood cell count and compensates for physiological changes which happen during an event like the Tour de France, it's disingenuous to call it nutrients.
Re:Chess’s Cheating Crisis by nradov on Monday October 19, 2020 @05:04PM (#24831018)
Lance Armstrong and his Postal teammates routinely did blood doping during the Tour de France. They smuggled frozen blood in a hidden compartment and arranged secret transfusions in hotel rooms. All the sordid details are in "The Secret Race" by Tyler Hamilton.

https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/212873/the-secret-r...