Re:Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reig...
by DudeInBasement on Thursday October 15, 2020 @04:23PM
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Free speech works even if people don't listen.
Respect/creditable is earned.
Re:Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reig...
by bigbubba on Thursday October 15, 2020 @07:20PM
(#24795514)
Does this mean you agree in principle with George Bush's 'free speech zones' aka "you can say what you like, but you have to do it over there where nobody will hear you"?
Re:Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reig...
by mnky9800n on Thursday October 15, 2020 @04:20PM
(#24793339)
So make political bots illegal and the world becomes sane again?
Re:Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reig...
by bigbubba on Thursday October 15, 2020 @04:27PM
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For every real bot there are probably 10 people accused of being bots because the accuser can't cope with people who disagree with them. In this respect 'bot' has become the new 'troll.'
Re:Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reig...
by cryptoz on Thursday October 15, 2020 @04:29PM
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The word 'bot' is overloaded unfortunately. It means today, both a robot as before, and also, a person who is unwilling or unable to have a normal conversation. Real people are 'bots' too today, when they don't actually talk to other people but only parrot the same points repeatedly. They may as well be robots as far as we can tell from their text online.
> 10 people accused of being bots because the accuser can't cope with people who disagree with them.
If those 10 people aren't really talking, though, then I would consider them bots too. If they are stating one point, over and over, and refusing to listen to others or change their minds about anything, then...they're bots.
Re:Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reig...
by rightbyte on Thursday October 15, 2020 @05:46PM
(#24794468)
You can't talk on Twitter. Any thread loses its order and it branches randomly. Different users sees different threads. It is made to encourage monologues. I guess it is why it is popular among politicians, celebs and journalist.
Re:Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reig...
by bigbubba on Thursday October 15, 2020 @04:37PM
(#24793590)
Maybe those ten accused people have the problem, or maybe their accusor has the problem. It's just as likely that somebody throwing around insults like 'bot' is the person with the problem. If I call somebody a jackass, maybe it's because they're a jackass or maybe it's because I am the jackass.
Re:Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reig...
by 8f2ab37a-ed6c on Thursday October 15, 2020 @04:25PM
(#24793400)
I'm ready for a social media Butlerian Jihad.
Re:Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reig...
by rtx on Thursday October 15, 2020 @04:23PM
(#24793385)
What needs to be banned is thinking that some people can't think for themselves.
Re:Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reig...
by gameswithgo on Thursday October 15, 2020 @04:28PM
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they clearly cannot though. example: the spread of qanon.
and if you think that is real, then the example is everyone who think qanon is absurd.
Re:Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reig...
by nexuist on Thursday October 15, 2020 @06:02PM
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It is not just "some people are stupid", that is too small scale thinking. We are constantly assaulted by algorithms trained to manipulate people, trained off of millions of A/B tests and microinteractions, constantly being tweaked using real psychological research and real manipulation techniques. There are real weaknesses in the human mind, and we have to constantly be on guard to avoid them being exploited. For most people it is simply too much effort to go through life and read every comment as if it is trying to trick you. They just want entertainment, and that's totally fair.
Re:Twitter and Facebook's action over Joe Biden article reig...
by ribosometronome on Thursday October 15, 2020 @04:51PM
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Antivaxxers, people who deny the efficacy of mask wearing and social distancing in preventing the spread of airborne diseases, climate change deniers, people who think emacs is better than vim. There's a lot of cases where the evidence is plentiful and unrestricted speech is at odds with keeping the world going.
Basically, free speech only works if we have reason to believe the people holding onto the "bad" ideas in the idea marketplace listen. It stops being a solution when there are no consequences to being wrong, when your reputation doesn't matter, and when you can be as immoral or insidious as you want without a care in the world. This is the result of automation invading human spaces.