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Re:San Francisco’s political leadership has squandered a for... by ryandrake on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @01:20AM (#24773360)
The good school / good neighborhood thing is a self-reinforcing cycle. Wealthy families move to neighborhoods with better schools, increasing local tax revenue, which gets invested into better and better schools, which attracts even more wealthy families. On the other hand, middle class flight leaves poor families in shitty districts, reducing tax revenue, which means worse and worse schools, which means more middle class flight. The incentives guarantee this will happen.

We need to separate school funding/quality from neighborhood affluence but that's a tall order politically.

Re:San Francisco’s political leadership has squandered a for... by RcouF1uZ4gsC on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @01:30AM (#24773409)
I think school quality is more a factor of the the families economic status than than of how much funding a school gets.

I bet if you took took the Cupertino school district families, and transplanted them into a much worse school district, and kept the same teachers, same staff, same buildings, same funding level of school, you would see the school district improve, even without the funding.

The issue is the families in poverty don't have the time and energy to care about school. Wealthy families, care about school. So even if the school is crappy, they will make sure their kids learn what they need to. In impoverished school districts, teachers can't concentrate on teaching, because they have to act as both teachers and social workers and advocates for their students.

So even if you increased the funding of schools, if you did not address the poverty in the surrounding community, it will mostly be a waste of money and political capital.

Re:San Francisco’s political leadership has squandered a for... by weehoo on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @01:48AM (#24773507)
Missouri spent $1.6B in 1980s dollars on the inner city schools in Kansas City. It didn’t do any good.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1996-03-27-me-51685-...

Re:San Francisco’s political leadership has squandered a for... by nradov on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @10:08AM (#24776683)
In California, tax revenue is already redistributed by the state to mostly equalize funding across school districts. Most of that funding comes from state income taxes, not local taxes.

https://ed100.org/lessons/whopays

In affluent areas the local PTA often gathers donations from parents to fund extra programs for things like sports, music, and technology.

Re:San Francisco’s political leadership has squandered a for... by seibelj on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @01:24AM (#24773379)
If we let the money follow the student (aka vouchers) then good schools would sprout up and attract more students and more dollars in a self perpetuating cycle regardless of location. It is immoral that the only students who have the choice of which school they go to are those with rich parents that can select the private school they prefer. For the poor, it’s a derelict monopoly school full of lifers.
Re:San Francisco’s political leadership has squandered a for... by dsd on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @01:47AM (#24773506)
I see your argument as avocating for a flavor of wealth redistribution. Is be interested in hearing more, but would prefer to explore the idea in a less polarizing, more academic way. Any sources?
Re:San Francisco’s political leadership has squandered a for... by seibelj on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @01:56AM (#24773548)
School choice movement, charters, voucher program. If you search for these you will see a lot.

A list of relevant articles https://reason.org/author/corey-deangelis/

Re:San Francisco’s political leadership has squandered a for... by throw9872349872 on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @01:25AM (#24773383)
But muh unions!!!1!
Re:San Francisco’s political leadership has squandered a for... by dang on Wednesday October 14, 2020 @01:37AM (#24773447)
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